Racist tensions have increased in the US since 2008

You are absolutely correct!

 

As an aware African American, I was certain enough that Cain was put up as a DISTRACTION; a sophisticated CLOWN.

That those men are Black, means virtually nothing... except to those on the Right who think they actually SAY something worthwhile to the majority of African Americans. They aren't wrong about everything... no. But be certain that Blacks on the "Left" REJECT THEM for virtually the same reasons as those Whites who are on the "Left". The COLOR of skin means practically NOTHING to a person with a decent mind.

They are Black men who identify most readily with White Culture. I should not have to explain that nuance to any modern American who has paid attention to reality. But yes... there are people who DO NOT look White but relate to White American CULTURE and perspectives far more than they do to those things concerning Blacks or other minorities. I honestly think it is HILARIOUS that people cannot (on their own) either don't realize or will not admit that cultural nuance exists.

Again, NOT every "Black" person... identifies as one whose cultural identity is defined by the ONGOING struggle which has been an integral component of this (American) society since slavery.

BTW, there are even White men/women... who readily identify with African Americans, even more than many Blacks do.

Please, open your eyes and see that everything your stereotypes attempt to describe... aren't necessarily accurate descriptions of reality in America.

 

Well, I know civil political discourse when I see it. And there IS a rather heavy amount of racist thinking expressed here. (I wasn't born yesterday.) I'd love to play-it-down too... but I've always been more honest about that than most.

No, there IS more racism being expressed since President Obama was elected. What has happened is that certain people WANT to be blatantly racist... but understand that isn't so acceptable anymore. I see the worst attempts in this forum to veil racist expression; almost like watching a small child trying to 'lie'. It's ridiculous AND plentiful here at PF.

No. I've been watching politics for over 40 years; there IS more racism being expressed right about now. It is unmistakable, and I'm certain enough that is has to do with having a "Black" man who IDENTIFIES as being "Black" as President.

Honestly, I'm tired of people trying to deny the same.

 

Is it race or culture or class conflict? To date in the US the dominant race, culture and class has been the fabulous WASP, but WASPs with wealth and influence. As long as the WASP wealthy class could reproduce itself sufficiently to stay in charge then all was well. Attempts by people of non-WASP race, culture and class could be tolerated but not encouraged and not permitted to grow in influence where it might threaten the WASP interests.

The WASP wealthy have now fallen out of love with representative democracy. As the numbers change so must the idea of representative democracy because it will threaten the power and influence of the WASP wealthy elite class. It isn't possible to destroy representative democracy from outside or from the top so it has to be undermined from inside and beneath. The generals will inspire the footsoldiers to bring down representative democracy so that it can be replaced with a form of fascism. Once representative democracy has been replaced by fascism numbers don't matter.

 

So they are just "Uncle Toms" to you. I get it. These blacks are "identifying more with white culture" because they are educated, successful people who reject the attempts of people like you to keep black men feeling like victims throughout their whole lives. To someone like you, the gangbanging crack dealer down the street is more in touch with "the struggle" of black people and is a better representation of black culture than someone like Allen West. That's really all that needs to be said as to why the black community is as (*)(*)(*)(*)ty as it is today. It's because of black people like you who refuse to allow it to advance.

 

No... they are far-Right-wingers to me. I'm Black and kind of White-oriented myself; but I'm certainly a left-leaning progressive.

You could list all the "Black" Conservatives you wish, but they aren't going to appeal to me one iota, because they support the near-fascistic Right we see today; I want NOTHING to do with them.

So... no; I don't mind people who look "Black" being White inside; I can personally relate to that; but I surely abhor the notion that African Americans SHOULD be regarding "Black" Conservatives (more than other Conservatives) just because they are "Black".

I got called Uncle Tom as a kid, because I loved (and still do) ALL people very much. And some Black people around me certainly didn't like that.

All you got is FOOLISHNESS, in my view.

You are missing a LOT, and you need to be educated yourself (as indicated by your inept assumption above). That is ridiculous.

I have been the victim of VIOLENT CRIME and have twice been held at gunpoint by WHITE MEN. Please, stop with the stupidity.

You don't know what you're talking about; yet I see your opinion. Fine.

Wrong again, assuming guy.

 

You are very SO CLOSE to what some are actually trying to do, it is frightening. You are more correct about things, than many Americans would dare admit.

 

You guys should not be using the word "racist" and "racism". Its a trick word designed to overthrow the real law, and replace it with anti-Christ law.

If there is some wrong deed, call it what it really is whether bearing false witness, murder, fraud, etc.

But "racism" doesn't mean anything. It can be bent any way the bullycrats want to bend it.

 

It may not make sense to you , but the vast majority understand the terms perfectly.
Where you get the notion of , anti Christ law , from is beyond my comprehension .The phrase is without legal meaning imo .
In layman terms , anything that directly or indirectly implies racial superiority is offensive , discriminatory and false .
Different , Yes . Superior or inferior , No .
Insensitive and stupid people may not understand this .Tough .
They will have to learn that it is as offensive as publicly defecating in the middle of the road . imo

 

I second this. I, whom most consider to be a middle aged white guy, totally see what is going on with the race issue, and I agree, the rise in white power hate groups are reaching a fever pitch. Maybe the new generations needs to go through all the lessons we already went through, but it's not going to be resolved any time soon. I was so hoping that when President Barack Obama took office the racial tentions would die down, but just the opposite seems to have happened. I don't blame him for it, because the problem was obveously still there and prone to get worse dispite what reasonable people try to do.

 

Typical. I've met toads with better manners.
That man you are talking to is doing far more to "advance" all people in this country than you or Allen West, Clarence Thomas, Larry Elder, Herman Cain ever could. Those men are basically thugs working for a party of thugs, and it doesn't matter to me if they are black or white, they are WRONG, like the political ideals they serve. I don't understand their behavior any better than I understand the gay conservative groups who support Republican ideals, but they do NOT represent the majority of their criteria, and they are working against their own best interests in the long run no matter how you spin it.

They are also biggots, economic biggots, class biggots, religios biggots, gender biggots, just like the Republicans have become, so they can just stay on the other side of the fence as far as I am concerned. It's not just race that has become a point of prejudice behavior, but race is a big part of the bigger picture of hate the conservatives are painting for them selves.

 

If blacks stray off the democrat plantation, they hate them.

 

I wouldn't say West is an Uncle Tom. He was raised in a military family, son of a career officer, and reflects that in his manner, crazy as it is. He is, however, a war criminal.

Uncle Herman, as I call him affectionally, is just that. An Uncle Tom. He was literally financially raised at the hands of a generous white Democrat benefactor and clearly owes a lot to the white man. As far as a candidate, it's obvious now he was more of a opportunist than anything else.

The left attacked him? Really? One person said that, Toure. Cain was the reason he fell from the polls. That and his lies, crazyness, and yes...predilection for screwing white women. The fact that he was leading the polls at one time merely underscores the stupidity of the right.

Cain was the Token Black.

"Hey, look! We got our very own black guy!"

 

WHAT??

are you KIDDING??

 

Wrong. Those men are successful leaders who should be the role models for today's blacks, while "that man" is a socialist victocrat.

 

Racist white leftists. Blacks have to act a certain way, otherwise they aren't "real blacks" and are therefore "token" "Uncle Toms".

Pathetic.

 

He didn't say that. Making things up again, I see.

 

Well of course racial tensions are high since 2008.
there's a black man in da white house.
And it makes racists tense.
max

 

I'm pretty sure a racist mulatto is in the White House.

 

No doubt that the Fo卐 network has had something do to with htis racial tension because of the lies they keep fabricating:



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...t-making-it-a-Kill-a-Cop-chant-against-police



Fox45 lies about peaceful chant making it a "Kill a Cop" chant against police





WBFF Fox New 45 (Fox45) was caught manufacturing a false narrative about the "Justice for All March" protest in Washington DC. Absent video from attendees this lie would have gone unanswered.
Fox45 was attempting to tie the demonstrations to the vicious murder of the two policemen in New York. To do so they chopped the video at an opportune spot for their narrative. They then assigned the wrong words to the protester's chants.

The protesters were chanting the following.

We can't stop!
We won't stop!
'til killer cops are in cell blocks!
Instead Fox45 reported that the protesters were chanting the following.
We can't stop!
We won't stop!
So kill a cop!
Note how Fox45 selectively cut the video above to ensure that their lying version of the chant made sense. Absent that chop, it made no sense.
Fox45 later apologized and invited Tawanda Jones to a subsequent segment.

FOX45 Apologizes for Error in Newscast

Fox45 is apologizing for an error made on Fox45 News at Ten last night. We aired a clip from a protest in Washington, DC where we reported protesters were chanting "kill a cop".
We received a phone call from Tawanda Jones, who is in the video, who informed us that the chant was actually "We won't stop….We can't stop…. 'til killer cops…. are in cell blocks".

We here at Fox45 work hard every day to earn your trust and bring you fair and comprehensive news from around the country. Although last night's report reflected an honest misunderstanding of what the protesters were saying, we apologize for the error.

We have deleted the story on our webpage and we offered to have Ms. Jones on Fox45 News at 5:00 tonight for a live interview. We had a constructive conversation with her and she accepted our invitation for a sit down interview.

No one should believe that this was a mistake. The selective chop edit is probative. More so than ever it is imperative that the average American be the media. Use those cellphones and cameras and document everything. The professional media, the traditional mainstream media are but wards of the plutocracy. They report to control as opposed to inform.

 

Yes, because Fox news isn't the controlled opposition equivalent of the Daily Mail.

And they are obviously the nexus of all this race baiting, no other channels are stirring it up.

 

Didn't you say that racist was a meaningless word? So why are you using it against Obama?

 

No I said it had a broad meaning. So if one's opponent calls one a racist, it's quite likely he is a racist by his definition. And Obama is a racist, in the worst sense.

 

You said the meaning was so broad as to have no coherent definition and was therefore a pointless word. But here we see that you seem to have some use for it. How is Obama a racist?

 

It helps highlight the lack of effect by calling everybody a racist, which they are. I will leave Obama's racist statements as an exercise for the reader.