Racists?

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Can Only American Republicans, their Politicians and their media, Be Racists?

  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

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  3. No. American Democrats, their Politicians, and their media can be also.

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Of course. The RP, since 1876, has been, for the most part, remarkably indifferent to systemic institutional racism in the US

    “Both of them have sold us out, both parties have sold us out. Both parties are racist, and the Democratic Party is more racist than the Republican Party.” Malcom X, By Any Means Necessary, Malcom X, Betty Shabazz and Pathfinder Press, 1992, P 46.
     
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    Charlie Dillon: True story, last weekend there was a religious revival at Madison Square Garden. Bishop Fulton Sheen made such a stirring speech that 10,000 people converted to Catholicism. Then Billy Graham got up and did some inspired preaching and 10,000 people converted to Protestantism, then to close the program, Pat Boone got up and sang "There's A Gold Mine In The Sky" and 20,000 Jews joined the Air Force!

    WHat does that tell you. Does that mean that someone hates jews and what will you do about it? Nothing!
    :et's say I lied about Billlings and I hate Jews what does that tell you You made sense. What would that tell you? You like that?
     
  3. Richard Franks

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    Wanna know something/ Something tells me that you hate Jews more than I do. You're using me to hide your guilt about it. Something tells me You hate jews like me and you are too afraid to admit it. I think you're demented or suffering with dementia. You are as old as I am and I think I am right about it and you cannot deny it.
     
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    Just to clear the air a bit on one matter -- Adolf Hitler was, in fact, a Roman Catholic, and he remained one (perhaps in name only) all of his life....

    Here's a small excerpt regarding Hitler and 'atheism' from the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

    Hitler on atheism

    Further information: Discrimination against atheists in Nazi Germany

    Hitler viewed atheists as uneducated, and atheism as the state of the animals. He associated atheism with Bolshevism, communism, and "Jewish materialism". Richard Overy cited Hitler's belief in racial biology as evidence of scientific views and atheism, but stated that Hitler was not a thorough atheist in that sense because of his theistic and spiritual ideologies
     
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    Are you sure?
     
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    Truth? Because I wasn't in Hitler's Berlin bunker in 1945 right before he blew his brains out to ask him about it, no, I'm not 'sure'.

    Was Hitler a 'good' Catholic? Was Hitler a 'good' Christian? Those are not the questions I was trying to 'clear the air' about.

    Hitler was confirmed into the Roman Catholic faith in 1904... that much is recorded fact. I have never seen anything to suggest that he officially renounced his membership in the Roman Catholic Church thereafter.
     
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    You lied about Billings and you admitted you hate Jews. You've been lying since the beginning and you are lying now. You shouldn't post here anymore. You don't know anything about Billings or about racism because you hate Jews. I am tired of reading your crap so just stop it. :fart:
     
  8. Ddyad

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    Oppressed human beings often bow and serve their oppressors. Surely you know that.

    The Civil War, Reconstruction and the 13th 14th and 15th amendments to the COTUS were supposed to end the oppression of black Americans.

    The Inconvenient Truth:

    It did nothing of the sort. It did not prevent a South solidified by the determination to exploit disfranchised Negroes and it did leave a North hesitating between democracy with black voters and plutocracy with white supremacy. In South Carolina, the situation was a little more difficult for the mob because of the efforts at reform that were being made by the Republicans. Despite Chamberlain's administration and the efforts at reform, the Democrats determined to carry the election of 1876 by force.

    Hampton, shortly after the war, went to Mississippi to look after his large planting interests in the Yazoo Delta. He returned to South Carolina in 1876 at the earnest solicitation of Butler and Gary, former Confederate generals. Their plan of campaign was clear. "Every Democrat must feel honor bound to control the vote of at least one Negro, by intimidation, purchase, keeping him away or as each individual may determine, how he may best accomplish it.

    "Never threaten a man individually. If he deserves to be threatened, the necessities of the times require that he should die. A dead Radical is very harmless—a threatened Radical or one driven off by threats from the scene of his operations is often very troublesome, sometimes dangerous, always vindictive.

    "In the month of September, we ought to begin to organize Negro clubs, or pretend that we have organized them, and write letters from different parts of the county giving the facts of organization out from prudential reasons, the names of the Negroes are to be withheld. ***Those who join are to be taken on probation and are not to be taken into full fellowship until they have proven their sincerity by voting our ticket.***” 28

    Riots and labor troubles ensued. Addressing the Senate on August 1, 1876, on "the late disgraceful and brutal slaughter of unoffending men at the town of Hamburg, South Carolina," President Grant said: "Murders and massacres of innocent men for opinion's sake, or on account of color, have been of too recent date and of too frequent occurrence to require recapitulation or testimony here. All are familiar with their horrible details, the only wonder being that so many justify them or apologize for them." 29 "The scene at Hamburg," he wrote to the Governor of South Carolina, "as cruel, bloodthirsty, wanton, unprovoked, and as uncalled for as it was, is only a repetition of the course that has been pursued in other states within the last few years, notably in Mississippi and Louisiana." In September there was a race riot in Aiken County, where an unknown number of Negroes were killed; some said fifteen, some said 125. Federal troops intervened.”
    BLACK RECONSTRUCTION IN AMERICA 1860- 1880, W.E.B. Dubois, introduction by David Levering Lewis, XVII THE PROPAGANDA OF HISTORY, the Free Press new York 1998. p. 687, 688.

    Focus here: "Those who join are to be taken on probation and are not to be taken into full fellowship until they have proven their sincerity by voting our ticket."
     
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    That is certainly consistent with much of what has been written about Hitler's religious beliefs, which I accepted until I found the published record of Hitler’s candid private thoughts on Christianity and religion (and practically every other subject that crossed his warped mind) recorded by his secretary during his private dinners with his inner circle published after the war as “Hitler's Table Talk” (Adolf Hitler, London, Weidenfeld & Nicholson, 1953).

    Here a few examples:

    "Night of 11th-12th July, 1941

    "National Socialism and religion cannot exist together....

    "The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of

    Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... "Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things." Hitler's Table Talk” (Adolf Hitler, London, Weidenfeld & Nicholson, 1953).(p 6 & 7).
     
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    Before I go, I want to tell this to you: I resent what you said about me and then some. I know a great deal of Billings and that is true. I resent you for say that I don't. I resent you for what you have said about me and I'm not happy about it. It upsets me you you're just a cold person for doing. You may keep saying thing of me and I'll resent you for it. Keep on doing it and you'll be sorry for it. Case closed. I never lied on anything and I resent you for saying I hate Jews and the truth is that I do not hate Jews. But you probably do. You'll be sorry and that is a promise.
     
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    I'll tell you what, there will be different stories about Hitler from different people.
     
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    I don't doubt for a minute that Hitler could have been a hypocrite about keeping his name in the Roman Catholic "roster" while he was carrying on in the most UN-Christian way imaginable. All I'm saying is that, "on paper", he was a Roman Catholic all of his life.

    Sorry I even butted in... adios!
     
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    Yes, that's right. But for some reason, that fact isn't published very much so few people realize it. The pope ACTIVELY helped many Nazis flee to South America so the Vatican cannot claim they were neutral in the matter.

    Hitler.jpg
     
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    No, not before you go. JUST GO. :thumbsdown: You have been lying and continue lying all the time about Billings (I gave you a link!) and about you hating Jews. The proof is there but you continue lying. So, go. Just .......... go. Go, liar. And don't come back until you are ready to be honest and stop lying. :pc:
     
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    So you think the entire African American community are ignorant fools who believe in a party that continues “its long campaign to crush the black American family, culture and community”. They are like children that believe, unknowing of the dark conspiracy at the heart of the Democratic party. Did I get that right?

    Pretty weird and racist.
     
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    Substantive rebuttal works better than empty personal attacks. Try it! :)

    As I pointed out most Black Americans continue to vote DP because the RP offers them no viable alternative.

    This may refresh your memory: “Both of them have sold us out, both parties have sold us out. Both parties are racist, and the Democratic Party is more racist than the Republican Party.” Malcom X, By Any Means Necessary, Malcom X, Betty Shabazz and Pathfinder Press, 1992, P 46.
     
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    You are right about that. Hitler was hypocrite.
    The NSDAP was a party of The Big Lie.

    Thanks for your input. :)
     
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    It's not just black Americans who believe in this particular devil, Edna. There are millions upon millions of otherwise smart, good and decent white folk who believe also (in great credit to them, most Asians remain immune).

    It's a testament to the cunning of the devil, more than it is to the wits of the accolytes.
     
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    I think I've proven you think African Americans are idiots who are unknowingly members of a political party out to "crush" their race conspiracy.
    Your "substantive rebuttal" is to quote another racist.
    No one believes in that "particular devil" that is in your head. It is amazing how the far left can complete the circle, join with the far right and then both can be wrong together.
     
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    There you go again calling black American civil rights heroes, like Dubois, Malcom X, and Angela Davis racists for telling what you know by now to be the Inconvenient Truth. Implying that they are "idiots" or "racists" is absurd.

    Black American support for the DP has always been generated by oppressive coercion, bribery and government engineered dependency.

    Their plan of campaign was clear. "Every Democrat must feel honor bound to control the vote of at least one Negro, by intimidation, purchase, keeping him away or as each individual may determine, how he may best accomplish it.

    "Never threaten a man individually. If he deserves to be threatened, the necessities of the times require that he should die. A dead Radical is very harmless—a threatened Radical or one driven off by threats from the scene of his operations is often very troublesome, sometimes dangerous, always vindictive.

    ***"In the month of September, we ought to begin to organize Negro clubs, or pretend that we have organized them, and write letters from different parts of the county giving the facts of organization out from prudential reasons, the names of the Negroes are to be withheld. ***Those who join are to be taken on probation and are not to be taken into full fellowship until they have proven their sincerity by voting our ticket.***” 28

    Riots and labor troubles ensued. Addressing the Senate on August 1, 1876, on "the late disgraceful and brutal slaughter of unoffending men at the town of Hamburg, South Carolina," President Grant said: "Murders and massacres of innocent men for opinion's sake, or on account of color, have been of too recent date and of too frequent occurrence to require recapitulation or testimony here. All are familiar with their horrible details, the only wonder being that so many justify them or apologize for them." 29 "The scene at Hamburg," he wrote to the Governor of South Carolina, "as cruel, bloodthirsty, wanton, unprovoked, and as uncalled for as it was, is only a repetition of the course that has been pursued in other states within the last few years, notably in Mississippi and Louisiana." In September there was a race riot in Aiken County, where an unknown number of Negroes were killed; some said fifteen, some said 125. Federal troops intervened.”
    BLACK RECONSTRUCTION IN AMERICA 1860- 1880, W.E.B. Dubois, introduction by David Levering Lewis, XVII THE PROPAGANDA OF HISTORY, the Free Press new York 1998. p. 687, 688. (*** mine)
     
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    Malcolm X believed in the Nation of Islam’s genetic theory of race, which holds that white people were bred from black people by a mad scientist in order to unleash evil on the world and you believe Blacks are fools being duped by the Democrats, both are dumb and racist.
     
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    Many liberals consistently slander black freedom fighters. That is probably why "liberals" are no longer trusted.
    In fact, Malcolm X broke away from the Nation of Islam before he was assassinated.

    "I should like to ask Malcolm X. two questions. The first, what is his opinion of the Jewish problem and the solidarity of Jews and Negroes against racism? The second, if he knows the names of Lincoln, Wilberforce, Garrison, John Brown and others and what is his opinion of these gentlemen?"
    "Malcolm: Most white people who profess to be for the Negro struggle are usually with it as long as they are nonviolent. And they're the ones who encourage them to be nonviolent, to love their enemies, and turn the other cheek. For those who are genuinely for the freedom of the black man-- as far as we're concerned, they're alright."
    Malcom X, By Any Means Necessary, Malcom X, Betty Shabazz and Pathfinder Press, 1992. p 115.
     
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    It was albinos that were being bred as a juju food source for Africans but something went wrong and the results turned out to be a superior race called Caucasians. The rest is history.
     
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    Malcolm Little claimed he became Malcolm X to symbolize his unknown African ancestral surname while discarding "the White slavemaster name of 'Little'"), and after his parole in 1952 quickly became one of the organization's most influential leaders. He was the public face of the organization for 12 years, advocating Black empowerment and separation of Black and White Americans, and criticizing Martin Luther King Jr. and the mainstream civil rights movement for its emphasis on nonviolence and racial integration. What I say is true. and I don't lie about anything. I still have no hatred against anyone including Jewish people and that is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth I swear to God. Anyone that says that I'm a liar is a liar themselves. I mean it.
     
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    Yeah, like I said he was a racist.....not that he didn't have good reason and motivation to be one. Are the last 4 sentences coming from you or Mr X?
     

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