RAKING IN THE DOUGH Illegal immigrants ‘to get one-time $15,600 stimulus payments if they lost their

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  1. peacelate

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    This is only partly true. What you are referring to is income tax that is withheld and can be changed based on how many dependents you claim.

    However., every worker as long as they are not being nefariously paid under the table, pays the same flat rate for payroll taxes (Medicare and social security) regardless of their income amount, legal status or dependents claimed. So illegals do pay taxes other than sales tax.

    If an illegal immigrant if filing a w4 to make changes to the amount withheld for income taxes, that company is also filing a w2. Employees and the IRS get that form, so no, illegals can't just claim 8 people and then not file taxes.
     
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    Dishwasher Union Local 321 must have endorsed Biden
     
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    Republicans aren't against illegal immigration, they're against Democrats, and they use illegal immigration to bash Democrats
    Again, they're not. In fact, most of the Republican leadership is surely aware that illegal immigrants can't vote, and supposing they can presupposes a level of corruption in both parties that isn't even possible.

    But fine, believe what you want. If you're even proposing these things that means talking to you is useless. All Dems worship the Devil and eat babies, right?
     
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    Ouch. Was that last part really necessary? I asked a question. That's how discussions work.
     
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    Lol...what bullshit. The only ones trying to make the country collapse are the right wing secessionists who are still fighting the civil war in their heads and still apoplectic that they lost their chattel.
     
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    I apologize and am sorry for being dismissive and snarky, but I don't see how I have any other choice. The problem I'm having is that those are Republican Talking Points, not actual facts. Most Republicans are against illegal immigrants but will still hire them if they need cheap labor and the accusation that illegals vote for Democrats is utterly absurd as it is practically impossible that they can vote at all. Again, if you believe either one of those things you are believing pure propaganda with no basis in fact whatsoever, and I find entertaining such arguments to be tedious at best.
     
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    That hole being the one in many conservative's heads through which simple common sense about illegals has escaped. If you're scared to even report when you're being physically robbed or your employer isn't paying you, like most illegals, then the idea that illegals are going down to a Federal Office Building to apply for all kinds of Federal Aid is absurd beyond description; but it is an article of faith among many conservatives and one no amount of rational argumentation can dislodge. It is right along with the idea that people who will flee when even a census taker shows up still go down to the polls every election and banter about with the police over how they want to sabotage their adopted country
     
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    I accept your apology. Thank you.

    Again, asking a question is soliciting a response for something unknown. Otherwise, it's a rhetorical question (answer already known).

    Belief means a person has already decided what they think is true (or not true). I have no beliefs regarding illegal immigration or the roles that Republicans and Democrats play on that subject. Hence, the question.

    Back to my question...
    Clearly, SOMEBODY is hiring illegal immigrants? You say that it's Republicans.

    I will table the second part about voting for the moment.

    Let's start with your opinion that Republicans are hiring illegal immigrants. Why do you draw that conclusion?
     

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