reading transgender children's book to KINDERGARTNERS>>MOD WARNING<<<

I don't know whether it was "indoctrination" - that is trying to brain wash children into accepting Gay people, or whether it was just reading a story that had a gay person in it. I suppose one side will swear one way, and another side the other... I don't see anything wrong with a school telling a story with Gay people in it. SImply mentioning Gay people to a child is not wrong nor is it indoctrination. If anything, the parents who want to gag any mention of homosexuals are the ones trying to indoctrinate their children into their way of thinking by forcibly controlling their learning environment. They are sending the message that Gay people and homosexuality are inherently wrong.

 

I dont remember any story in which a sexuality was pushed on me at all. Yes there were those pesky prince and princess stories, but I still didnt know or care about straight and gay, it simply was what it was. Hell I didnt even know the word gay or anything for that matter until I was a good bit older, probably 10 or 11.

Point being I don't see why having gay or straight anything with 5 year olds is such an importance.

 

To say the you are bit over-dramatic would be an understatement. My mother had two friends that were a gay couple and I spent many hours at their house starting at about age seven. My mom was very casual and nonchalant about explaining to me that they were indeed a couple and that some people lived differently and a bit out of the ordinary. No big deal and certainly did not influence me one way or the other throughout my life, other than instilling In me, my mother's good nature and tolerance in not judging others based upon their personal relationships.

 

Religion is a terrible source of ethics. All religions resist the development of ethics in the secular world. Your brand of Christianity is a time capsule from the Bronze Age.

The traditional family is just a euphemism for the exclusion of queer families. I have no problem with straight couples and their children. I just can't wait for people to stop considering that the only kind of valid family.

 

Indoctrination works best if you use it when the kids are as young as possible, that way it's all they know.

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If things were always like that we wouldn't have many problems. The problems occur when it's forced down our throats.

 

They need to know how to read and write before they need to understand if the want a man or a woman as a partner.

 

You were 7, sitting in the comfort of a home w/some type of entertainment while your mother visited - not a kindergartner held hostage in a classroom being read a book about something you couldn't possibly understand.... there is a difference there, not to mention that you had at least 2 yrs of maturing, which can also make a difference....

How your mom taught you about gays was a good way. At your age, you would have been curious, asked questions and she gave you satisfactory answers.......

 

That is the difference, it came from your mom and she did it her way. Schools need not apply in that subject.

 

These posters are claiming that just reading a book that is designed to make transgender children feel included by way of making non-transgender children aware of the humanity of kids that are a bit different, will influence children to be gay. That is big steaming pile of dung and the author and school are not doing anything out of line. These kids have the same feelings and emotions as any kids do and sadly, there are parents wrapped up so tightly in their own very small world of ignorance and bias that their kids will be brought up to be as unaccepting as their parents. This is not a book of the Kama Sutra for gay kids, it's likely just a story about a child that is a bit different that requires social acceptance and understanding...Big freakin' deal!

 

At 5? Politics and gender identity are not crucial in a 5 year olds life lol.

 

What is the book teaching them? Sex positions? Phone sex? Sexting? Common sense dictates that the child character in the book is based upon the personality type and actions of a transgender child that these other kids might already know and just maybe when the transgender child is better understood by classmates, the will be more readily accepted.

IMO..teaching children acceptance at an early age just might be the remedy to fix the problem that is out of control with the older kids.

 

No, teach kids not to be cruel period when they are that young, stop trying to label it down to just gay and transgender. Fat kids, kids that wear glasses, etc. get picked on just as much as any body (*)(*)(*)(*)ing else. You teach equality by being equal. You cause less of an uproar by trying to make a bigger deal out of one person and making another less important.

Simply teach 5 year olds it is not nice to pick on each other for any reason and leave it at that until they get older. Trust me, it is that simple and much easier than trying to explain to a 5 year old what the LGBT and whatever sexuality you got out there is.

And lastly, have we forgotten about things like tomboys? Just because a little girl might engage in more boyish activities does not mean she is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing transgender, but right away people jump to the conclusion that she is a little boy in a girls body and they push her to be a boy. For christ sakes yes there are some girls who would rather play football than play with barbie dolls, or get rough instead of put on make up. That does not mean she is transgender. Let the kid grow up first and decide later. But no, idiots want to tell her she is really a boy just because of stupid simple (*)(*)(*)(*) like that and of course as a child she will soak it up and become what she is steered towards.

By todays standards these friggin weirdo's would have told me I am some bisexual girly boy when I was 6 because I was having more fun driving around in my cousins pink barbie car and didn't want to play basketball in the driveway with the other boys. Mind you I was still playing basketball and soccer at the time, just not when I went to my cousins because I just wanted to ride in the car. Turns out it was the beginning of my love for automobiles as I am a qualified mechanic and I have a thing for fast cars.Yeah good thing my antics werent portrayed in todays world or I would have been told I was either gay or a girl. And on top of that sometimes I would play Barbie dolls with my girl cousin simply because there were no other girls to play with her, and plus I was always close to her so I (*)(*)(*)(*)ing made her day lmao. My parents never questioned my sexuality, and nobody made a big deal out of it like they do today. "OMG my 5 year old daughter said she is a boy, hurry and sell her girl clothes, get her boy clothes and change her name from Charlotte to Charley" . Im sorry but I think the media and moron parents cause more of an uproar and problems in childs lives as well as pushing them too fast into grown up situations.

Stop trying to hammer gay,straight, lesbian, transgender into small childrens minds when they need to be soaking up what is necessary for their education. And when it comes to bullying explain why bullying is bad for anyone and it is not right. Stop trying to take over the parents duties as well as making these kids grow up too damned fast. Let kids be kids and just make sure they respect each other because we are all people, not because you feel one person needs to be more respected than another simply because you care about LGBT more.

it is really not that difficult.

 

I supplied you with links written by professionals with much more expertise than you or I on the subject, but obviously you have convinced yourself that you know better. You did not get the very simple fact and point is that it has zero to do with SEX and everything to do with social acceptance of a child that displays characteristics other than the ones other kids might be expecting. Your post also makes clear that you know very little on the subject of transgender children and maybe there would not have been so many closeted gays filled with shame and self-hatred if they were accepted for who and what they were when they were young. You made the common and ignorant mistake of confusing SEX acts with gender. Thank goodness there are genuine trained psychologists out there as opposed to just the laymen that kid themselves into thinking they know better than anyone concerning everyone..

BTW...your reference to a transgender as a "(*)(*)(*)(*)ing transgender" pretty much shows your total lack of empathy for the kids that are...yes...transgender.

 

That's because its not about stopping bullying and is instead about promoting homosexuality and transgenderism.

 

Since my post got deleted all I have to say is I am a potty mouth, and 1 word in front of another does not describe my empathy towards anyone, I am seriously surprised even you tried to you that liberal tactic.

As a person who is for LGBT rights, and you know I am because we have agreed on these subjects and I have stated it numerous times, I find your tactic extremely based on false premise to do nothing more than make me look like the bigot you know I am very well not. Pretty sad, even for you.

And as far as psychologists or "professionals" ..Once again I will point out that it does not take much for a group of like minded men and women with an agenda to put something out there to boost "sales" and get more people into that chair to talk about their feelings. No different than psychiatrists who prescribe every child they see Ritalin or some new drug and immediately label them as ADHD or ADD. You know why? because they make money for doing it. Trust me, been there and done all that and even helped kids who were the same as me, and just like me they didn't need a damned pill that turns them into zombies to help them. Im no damned licensed doctor, but I know what is up with all that mess and I know the mind games they play, especially on parents.

It is not as intricate as you may think, it is more of a play.

And again, are you saying teaching children that bullying is wrong no matter the reason, or are you for only taking the time for LGBT kids and ignoring the rest?

 

As we all know, bullying is a very serious problem and what do the schools do about it? Very rarely NOTHING and there's cases where the tortured kid committed suicide........

MOD EDIT>>>RULE 3<<< it's very important to teach these kids as young as 5 about recognizing transgenders and to treat them w/love and kindness.

5 yr old kids do NOT understand this transgender/gay stuff, but they do understand about treating others nicely and they learn this by example.......

Geeesus! You people are so stuck on different lifestyles, that you're willing to shove it into 5 yr olds minds, not caring that it's something they can't possibly understand and it would only leave them confused.

A child's mental/psychological development is a slow process thru out their formative and childhood yrs and that's why adults have to keep issues age appropriate for them. You have to go down to their level, not expect little kids to go up to your level. Why are you so confused about this?

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It's not replacing reading and writing. Where did you get that idea? Yes, it's a children's book tailored to the comprehension level of the age group. They're not reading Fifty Shades of Grey to the class.

 

Reading that book to the class replaced a learning lesson that would have benefited the kids.

If you want to believe that whatever psychobabble she used was tailored down to 5 yr old comprehension level - that's your problem.

Why can't you libs just let the kids be kids? Kids learn about this type of thing soon enuf and when they do, then they have a clearer and less confused understanding of it.....

 

Exactly!

 

Isn't it amazing how liberals hate labels but label everything in sight? The hate differences but go to great lengths to be different and if you notice it you're intolerant, if you don't notice it you're insensitive.