Religious Oddities #1

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by upside-down cake, Nov 16, 2014.

  1. Margot2

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    If you have an alternative theory that is supported, bring it.
     
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    Do you think you are smarter than all the scientists, geologists and archeologists that have lived over the past 200 years?
     
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    What I think is the evidence found and available to be examined is in 100% agreement by all scientists with all biases, i.e. a fossil of a Gar Fish is of a fish that died and was rapidly buried, minerals in the soil replaced the bone and other structures. (Gar Fish found today look exactly the same as some Gar Fish fossils.)

    What is not in agreement are the speculations and opinions of the scientists, geologists and archaeologists.

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    How were the mountains formed Margot2?
     
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    You are waffling again.. We aren't talking about fossils or gar fish.
     
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    How did some people ever get out of the first grade? Even a person with an IQ of 5 is more intelligent than some posters. They are a lost cause.
     
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    Well, the reality of history , science and archeology shouldn't threaten faith, but I think the "miracles" outweigh the message.
     
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    What truths are you talking about? You still haven't shown us any proof that any flood was 'Noah's' flood. Ball's in your court. Now stop playing games.
     
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    What is this "indoctrinated in school" crap? Who learns religion in school... Most of us get that in Sunday School and Church.
     
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    I went to public schools. In high school we all had to attend one period a week of 'religious study', that was late 1960s-early 1970s. No one took it seriously. I was in the 'non denomination' group, as were quite a few other kids. The pastor who was to instruct us came from the local Baptist church. I grew up in a beachy/surfing community. The pastor was a young surfer, we'd see him out in the water quite a bit. We'd spend most of the time paying homage to 'Hughie' god of the waves. The pastor believed being close to nature is being close to god.

    I did attend Sunday School for a few weeks as a seven year old. A few of my friends attended. I lasted about three weeks because of my inquisitive mind. Only went to church for weddings and funerals.
     
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    Well.. I had 15 years of unbroken Sunday School and Church attendance..
     
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    You were on the subject of how mountains were formed. I'm waiting for your "science" on this.


     
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    Already posted two links for you about the formation of mountains..


    All the world's mountain ranges are much older than 6,000 years..
     
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    How were they formed?

     
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    I pity you ;)

    To be fair Margot, most Australians don't take Christianity seriously. Christians (and other religions) and non religious folk generally get on. In any circle of friends you'll find Christians and non religious people. I have a few Christian (and one Muslim) friends but no one talks about religion. We just get on with the activities and lifestyle that brought us together.

    I'm looking forward to Christmas. Great time of the year in Australia. We can still walk through public and private areas to see Christmas decorations including religious ones. The lights will go up on houses which become show pieces and people come for miles to see them. No one gives a sh!t.

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    Not by someone waving a magic wand. I'd say movement within the Earth's crust. Give us your account.
     
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    I actually enjoyed Church and Sunday school .. Sang in the choirs... so it was no burden to me.. but my friends are mixed also and don't talk religion.. except for one nutjobber who is a fundamentalist.. She talks like NaturalBorn.. has very little education..
     
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    Except for Ken Ham, I doubt many Australians believe in the Young Earth thingy. Must be an American thing.
     
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    Margot2 claimed the mountains were NOT formed by tectonic plate movement that pushed up to form the mountain ranges. I want to know then how they WERE formed. Simple question. It doesn't require any faith. The answer seems to be settled science, unlike evolution or man-made global warming.
     
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    Christianity is the largest Australian religion according to the national census. In the 2011 Census, 61.1% of Australians were listed as Christian. Australia has no official state religion and the Australian Constitution protects freedom of religion. The presence of Christianity in Australia began with the arrival of the First Fleet of British convicts in 1788. The religion grew to account for 96.1% of the national population at the time of the Federation of Australia in 1901. The Anglican Church of Australia (formerly known as the Church of England in Australia) remained the largest denomination until 1986, when it was surpassed by the Roman Catholic Church in Australia.

    Historically significant Australian Christians[SUP][1][/SUP] have included the Reverend John Dunmore Lang, Saint Mary MacKillop,Catherine Helen Spence, Pastor David Unaipon, the Reverend John Flynn and Pastor Sir Doug Nicholls. High profile contemporary Australian Christians include Tim Costello, Baptist minister and current CEO of World Vision Australia;Frank Brennan, Jesuit human rights lawyer; Cardinal George Pell, Catholic Archbishop of Sydney; Phillip Aspinall the current Archbishop of Brisbane, Philip Freier the current Anglican Primate of Australia and Archbishop of Melbourne,Kevin Rudd, former Labor Prime Minister; John Dickson, historian and founder of Public Christianity; and Tony Abbott, current Liberal Party Prime Minister.
     
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    Yeah.. this fundamentalist thing and the whole rapture ready claptrap took off in the US during the Depression and the Dust Bowl years.
     
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    I was waiting for you to bring this up. I really was. In the last census a question was asked about religion, I believe it was optional to answer. I wasn't home during the last census. 60 odd percent chose Christianity for a number of reasons.

    1. Those who chose Christianity are actually Christians (more power to them).
    2. There was no choice for Atheism, Australia doesn't categorise Atheism as a religion (gladly).
    3. There was a choice for non religious. Many people still have some, if only a small affinity with a religion.

    So,, in effect the question was weighted towards the choice of a religion. Australia has a huge multicultural society. Many people are descendants or from southern Europeans,, Italians, Greeks (Melbourne has the largest Greek population outside of Greece) Spaniards, the former Yugoslavia etc., who still practice their Christian religions. There are also large South American communities who are predominately Catholic. The Vietnamese community is I believe the fourth largest ethnic group in Australia, mainly Catholic.

    Anglo- Australians, except possibly some Irish, along with northern European descendants are generally non religious. Ticking Christianity didn't mention if that person is actually a practicing Christian or just has some affinity with Christianity. At federation nearly 100% of Australians, who were mostly British, were Christian. A hundred years later with a large multicultural society the number has dropped to 60%. What does that tell you?

    For your information, Buddhism is the fastest growing religion in Australia by percentage.

    You've done a lovely copy and paste. Now give me your opinion.
     
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    It's a known fact that people grasp for religion when under duress.
     
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    Quit lying.. I posted two links about the actions of tectonic plates forming mountains.. they just didn't form any mountain ranges 6,000 years ago.
     
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    First you stated mountains were not formed by tectonic plate movement.

    How do you know when the mountains were formed?

     

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