Remarks by President Trump, Vice President Pence, and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force in Press

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Nobody, me included, has said anything about the Chinese Government or what their response was to this

    What I did say was that Trump abolished the office having to do with Pandemics in 2017. (I don't think I said he fired anybody) I agree that the doctors that once worked for it were still with the CDC

    That much is undisputed.



    You seem to be saying either that our own Office of Pandemics wouldn't have helped us out at all once the Pandemic became manifest over here, OR that the entire thing was entirely due to the Chinese and our own response is therefore totally irrelevant. I don't accept either one, but then I do admit of the possibility that Trump can and does make mistakes

    I agree that the WORLD is in this crisis largely due to the Chinese Government's actions ( If what you reported is the full and entire truth)

    I think that the USA is in this crisis largely due to the actions of Donald John Trump
     
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    lol.... You don't even know what you are talking about. Trump increased the budget.
     
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    Other than the governments initial test where have we not been "nearly as good" and again nothing to do with the NSA reorganization and you have not shown there any negative effects BECAUSE of the reorganization.

    False Claim About CDC’s Global Anti-Pandemic Work

    As the COVID-19 disease caused by the new coronavirus has spread around the world, a number of politicians, news organizations and public figures have made the false claim that the Trump administration cut the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s anti-pandemic work in over 40 countries to just 10. The CDC told us that’s not true.

    The claim appears to have been based solely on outdated news reports from early 2018 that said the CDC was preparing to dramatically reduce its work helping to prevent infectious-disease epidemics. Those reports said much of that work on the Global Health Security Agenda, a pact between over 60 nations that began in 2014, had been funded by a five-year, nearly $600 million supplemental package that was dwindling. That one-time funding, which Congress originally appropriated in response to the Ebola epidemic in West Africa in 2014, ran out at the end of September 2019.

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    As we said, the CDC told us that’s false.

    “CDC did not have to cut back its work from 49 to 10 countries,” said Maureen Bartee, CDC’s associate director for Global Health Security, in a statement to FactCheck.org. “In the FY18-FY20 annual appropriations, CDC received base appropriations for global health security from Congress. This was used to continue the essential public health capacity development in the four core areas that was started in 2014 with the one-time supplemental funds.”

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    CDC operating budget plans show that its funding for global public health protection — which includes global disease detection and emergency response and global public health capacity — increased from $58 million in fiscal year 2017 to around $108 million in fiscal years 2018 and 2019. (And that does not include any remaining supplemental funds available for use.) The increases included nearly $50 million more each year for CDC’s global health security initiatives.

    Those amounts went up again in fiscal year 2020, when the CDC was awarded $183 million for global public health protection, overall, and $125 million specifically for its global health security efforts. For fiscal year 2021, President Donald Trump has requested that CDC funding for global disease detection and other programs be increased further — to $225 million total, with $175 million going directly to global health security.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/f...ter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social-pug

    So stop with the specious claims of past history and deal with what we are doing now.
     
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    Why not? THEY are responsible for this. Why are you protecting them?
     
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    And I don't think that the American people are going to forget that in November.

    If we can safely leave our houses to vote by then.
     
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    I'm not protecting anybody, I was just pointing out that I was talking about Trump, not the Chinese.

    Don't you people EVER stop distracting?

    The Chinese certainly have a great deal to answer for in this regard, no question, but I think we should put our own house in order before we start in on reforming other people. I don't care what anyone says. the reason we have this epidemic so bad here in the US is due mainly to Trump's response and other extraordinarily short-sighted activities of his.

    Other nations, and even this USA right here, are going to have epidemic diseases arise from time to time. It's in the world's interest that ALL of us deal with ALL of them with the SAME urgency. The Chinese reaction here was just about exactly equivalent to the "Amerikans" who wanted us to send nobody in to deal with Ebola and thank god they didn't get their wish, as a worldwide epidemic of THAT would be true horror unleashed.
     
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    Yea trying to blame him when it is the Chinese to whom we should be pointing fingers and our disdain. You've yet to point out anything Trump personally did to make it "so bad" here while ignoring how he declared a public health emergency back in January, mobilized our best experts, began fast tracking testing and approvals and most import banned travel from China for which the left attacked him.

    It is quite clear you interest here is the up coming election and desperately trying to use this global health emergency to blame Trump. Pitiful.
     
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    This reminds me of how Nazis' scapegoated Jews as the reason for Germany's problems before WWII. Meanwhile the Coronavirus has slowed to a crawl throughout China (outside the epicenter of Hubei province.) And again it's Trump's insane policies that led to the firing of a crack pandemic team in 2018 in his scorched earth policy to save money.
     
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    And what Trumpers are ignoring...is that most of what you accuse the Chines government of doing (and rightly so), Trump is ALSO guilty of.

    He played down this pandemic. He initially claimed it was a "Dem hoax". He did nothing about getting tests out (because he was politically afraid that high infection numbers would make him look bad)
     
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    Stop with the specious canards.
     
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    I seen a press conference where he said the old system to deal with viruses was old and obsolete.
    The system that dealt with SARS, H1N1, and Ebola was outdated.
    That's why he dismantled it 2 yrs ago.
    What a F'n liar. And there's 35% of the population that is not aware enough to see his lies.
     
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    yep. He claimed it's the new D hoax against him. Politicizing it.
    But nope. It's real. And it's severe. He then declared a National Emergency, it's so real.
     
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    The hoax about his response not the virus and he was right. He had declared a public health emergency in January, he ramped it to a National Emergency when the highly experienced members of the task force advised him to do so.

    So are you voting for Biden who said the China travel ban was racist and xenophobic and an over reaction?
     
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    It was reorganized and has been working fantastic.
     
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    LOL, you can't be serious. Did the Jews unleash a poisonous outbreak in Germany? Be a little less facetious now. China's responsibility lied with its ability to contain the virus within its OWN borders. There were literally articles on how the Chinese failed to communicate with leadership. But that was before putting an eye on anything critical to the Chinese would be bad.

    This isn't a "scapegoat". Taking responsibility doesn't have to mean the end of civilization. It means putting on big boys pants.
     
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    More made up stuff. All day long, eh.

    So fantastic a big part of the country is shut down. We have to maintain social distancing. Great new system we have.

    Put the country into a likely recession. Yep, this system is way way better. LOL.
     
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    Oh this is too funny. Now you're stating that the Chinese deliberately released a poisonous outbreak in America. Once again a page from the Nazis' blaming Germany's woes on the Jews. I notice you make these whacky accusations lacking the intestinal fortitude to show a drop of evidence. More hysteria from the right. Lol and of course Trump's insanity of firing a pandemic team in 2018 in his scorched earth policy to save money without a single thought of what the consequences would be is probably a genius move in the jaundiced eyes of the whacky right.
     
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    Depression and likely a Great Depression. There's also been other reports of connections and businesses(and we saw selling stocks by Congressmen/women) that make me very upset. When this is over, a full FTC report and review has to get underway, with criminal prosecutions if necessary.
     
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    Pure B.S. He fired a crack PandDemic team 2017 in a money saving effort. You keep spewing the Trump koolaid

    The facts are that it was the Trump hires, the Trump policies and the Trump staff that refused to keep the team of pandemic experts on hand in 2017. Please prove that the Pandemic Team was still intact in 2017 -2020
    I've got proof the Team was no LONGER in existence. Where's your proof that the pandemic team was still around in 2018,2019?? YOU HAVE NONE!

    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...nald-trump-fire-pandemic-officials-defund-cd/

    "In May 2018, the top White House official in charge of the U.S. response to pandemics left the administration. Rear Admiral Timothy Ziemer was the senior director of global health and biodefense on the National Security Council and oversaw global health security issues, a specialty that had been bolstered under President Barack Obama.

    After Ziemer’s departure, the global health team was reorganized as part of an effort by then-National Security Adviser John Bolton. Meanwhile, Tom Bossert, a homeland security adviser who recommended strong defenses against disease and biological warfare, was reportedly pushed out by Bolton in 2018. Neither White House official or their teams, which were responsible for coordinating the U.S. response to pandemic outbreaks across agencies, have been replaced during the past two years.

    In November 2019, a bipartisan group of lawmakers and experts formally recommended that health security leadership on the NSC should be restored. And on Feb. 18, 2020, a group of 27 senators sent a letter to current National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien to ask him to appoint a new global health security expert to the NSC.

    "The fact that they explicitly dismantled the office in the White House that was tasked with preparing for exactly this kind of a risk is hugely concerning," Jeremy Konyndyk, who ran foreign disaster assistance in the Obama administration, told the Guardian. "Both the structure and all the institutional memory is gone now."

    Instead, Trump has looked within his administration to fill roles for the coronavirus response. "
     
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    If anyone is to blame for Coronavirus here in the United States, it's the Liberals and their OPEN! border policies that they're trying to implement. Remember when everyone of those Democratic candidates raised their hands to give FREE! Healthcare to all Illegals who manage to sneak into the Country even if there's a high Probability that they're are carrying extremely contagious diseases like Measles or now Coronavirus. Well! Liberals are now beginning to Pay attention as to why it's extremely important to secure the Borders and make sure everyone who comes into America is thoroughly checked that they're not bring with them Diseases from their under developed countries they're coming from. This disease doesn't discriminate between Liberals and Conservatives and I'm sure some of these Bleeding Heart Democrats will be singing a different tune when themselves or their loved ones are dying, because there arn't enough respirators around to save them, because Illegals are hooked up to them.
     
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    But first let's get rid of the bright orange jackass. His own party had to resist his defunding of the CDC every year. Cowardly Trump had no choice but to go along with his own party strictly because it would have been politically dangerous for him to fight his own party.

    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...nald-trump-fire-pandemic-officials-defund-cd/

    The Trump administration’s initial proposals for the budgets for emerging and zoonotic infectious diseases at CDC — a key player in the fight against coronavirus — have consistently been lower than what was spent the previous year.

    The administration proposed $61.7 million less in 2018 than 2017; $96.4 million less in 2019 than in 2018; $114.4 million less in 2020 than in 2019; and $85.3 million less in 2021 than 2020.

    However, Congress reshapes presidential recommendations as they see fit when they craft final spending bills.

    Once again we see a policy of Trump's that the right wing would have applauded had congress backed him.
     
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    We're not going to spend trillions on a part of the CDC that we hopefully shouldn't need that often. And won't need that often if we use the force of the UN to force food practices on the Chinese. They clearly can't govern themselves as it relates to their food practices.

    Back with the Sandusky scandal in the NCAA, they called it a 'lack of institutional control'. That's what's gone on in China. I would say to President Xi that the international community has lost trust and faith in China moving forward.
     
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    Once again back to blaming China for our problems and ignoring Trumps laziness and pure stupidity. And you admit to supporting Trumps constant attempts to break the CDC so that even more Americans can die of viruses that will always be apart of our existence in this world and always have been. What massive flaming ignorance and total disregard for human life.
     
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    Total B.S. and propaganda. You're supporting a president who spent his entire administration fighting to create an unsafe and dangerous existence for Americans.

    His own party had to resist his defunding of the CDC every year. Cowardly Trump had no choice but to go along with his own party strictly because it would have been politically dangerous for him to fight his own party on this.

    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...nald-trump-fire-pandemic-officials-defund-cd/

    The Trump administration’s initial proposals for the budgets for emerging and zoonotic infectious diseases at CDC — a key player in the fight against coronavirus — have consistently been lower than what was spent the previous year.

    The administration proposed $61.7 million less in 2018 than 2017; $96.4 million less in 2019 than in 2018; $114.4 million less in 2020 than in 2019; and $85.3 million less in 2021 than 2020.

    However, Congress reshapes presidential recommendations as they see fit when they craft final spending bills.
     

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