Reparations for Slavery.

I'll bring my own truck. Actually, no I won't. I'm suffering (see above), so the State needs to supply my wheels.

 

Do they have ancestors who were enslaved?

 

I hope it's not determined by dancing ability. I am probably the only Black person in America who can't dance.

 

When you have time visit www.ados101.com---
this site has lots of information concerning reparations.

 

I can prove I had enslaved ancestors on a plantation in Mississippi. I believe most African-Americans had at least one enslaved ancestor. Since slavery was race based, eligibility won't be hard to prove.

 

The reparations debate is NOT going away. I'm sorry if that upsets some folks. Slavery was America's original sin. It must be dealt with. We cannot pretend that it never happened.
And, the current ADOS movement (American Decendants of Slaves) takes into consideration not only slavery, but also Jim Crow and segregation wrongs.
It's going to be interesting. I may not see any reparations in my lifetime. But I am leaving my family history records for my kids and grandkids so they will have the necessary proof for their reparations.

 

Ok, what is your number for dancers, and the one for non-dancers?

 

Don't forget to add in the oppression of women also. Talk about enslavement....

No one that I know of is pretending it didn't happen, but thinking that taking money from people who did not commit the sin, and giving it to people who have not been sinned against, is nothing more than redistribution of money. It fixes nothing, addresses nothing, and causes further barriers between races.

 

When Japanese people received reparations for their internment during WW2 was that considered "redistribution of money?"

 

Were they alive when reparations were made? Were their grandchildren paid for suffering no ill?

 

I'm for reparations.

https://twitter.com/ZubyMusic/status/1148592822569897984
Zuby here summarize it, really.

If America are to pay reparations, then blacks are to pay themselves because of the black on black slavery that happened before whites even landed on Africa. Saudis to pay blacks, whites, Asians and other Saudis. Every ethnicity/race are to pay the others and themselves.

This kind of bull is such a dumb idea it's meaningless and pointless. The idea that only one race/ethnicity is owed/owe reparations is stupid and extremely selective.

 

You are probably right, the idea of reparations will likely go on for generations more.

But — looking at current support for it, the fraud that occurred during the Pigford settlement, and the issue of matching individuals that are claiming monetary damages based on heritage — it isn’t ever going to happen, as as more generations pass the lower the likelihood of it occurring diminish more-so.

Furthermore, you have the numerous attempts to correct the wrongs of the past such as minority based loans and grants, minority required governmental contracts, racial based quotas in education or employment and various other programs; are those simply ignored in the reparations argument as a down payment?

Instead of teaching your children they are deserving of something that they are not (free money because of their race) you should perhaps be teaching them to be as successful as possible.

Many groups have been discriminated against or disenfranchised.
You are not special but you are equal

 

Makes no difference.

 

"You are not special but you are equal".
If that is true why did we need the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments? Why did we need the Emancipation Proclamation? Why did we need Plessy vs. Ferguson, Brown vs. Board of Education, the 1957 Civil Rights Act, the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act? Why did we need Affirmative Action?

 

I am not concerned about what happened in Africa. I am concerned with the enslaved Black people of America---the ones who created the foundation of wealth for America.

 

I don’t speak for items before my birth but those times have passed.
If you go far enough back everyone has one of those periods.

I noticed you didn’t answer a single question I asked, I wonder why that is?

 

I notice you didn't answer any of the questions I asked either. Why did Black people need all those civil rights laws and Supreme Court rulings if they were equal like you said?

 

Why would I answer questions after you have refused to do so?
That’s not typically the way things go...

I have never said blacks have not faced discrimination; Japanese people, Irish people, women, gay people, Muslims, and so on for infinity have all faced discrimination.
The difference is one group is seemingly is unable to move past it generations later. Do you really feel like a large cash payment to the descendants of slaves (and lets be real, it won’t just go to these people — it will be based on skin tone alone) will make any difference? What amount? Can we cancel all other programs implemented?

 

Of course you're not. You're not interested in inconvenient facts of history.

The fact that blacks also had slaves in America prior to the implementation of the 13th Amendment.
The fact that every race, every ethnicity, every demographic and nearly every group have been slaves and slave owners at some point in time.

I find it hilarious that you want reparations for something that doesn't affect you at present day. Slavery is illegal and have been for nearly 200 years.

The sins of our ancestors are not the sins of their descendants.

 

Sure thing, if that's what it takes.

 

Right, so now we've established that all black Americans are eligible. Now we can get down to the important part. HOW much blackness must they have to qualify?

Also, since the very people pushing this BS also believe that biological states are just social constructs, and that a man can be a woman, then they must include all those who identify as black and/or slave descended, even if they're rich white folk. You'll have to pay them too, since it would make you a Raving Bigot and Nazi to deny their identity.

 

And if your grandkids end up being 90% white?

 

You mean the ACTUAL people who were imprisoned?

Seriously, it's comedy at this point.

 

1) The number of Blacks who owned slaves was very small. Slavery in America was a race based institution. Were there any Blacks who owned White slaves in America?
2) Slavery does still impact Blacks. The wealth gap between Blacks and Whites is just one proof of this.
3) Slavery has been illegal in the US for 154 years. As history goes 154 years is a short time. My great grandfather was 11 years old in 1865. He was a slave on a Mississippi plantation.

 

That won't change the fact they had enslaved Black ancestors. I'm sure they would figure it out.