Report: Trump played central role in hush payoffs to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal

Okay, went through the thread and have seen several people ask exactly what Trump did that was illegal. So far the only answer I can see is "the press said so so go read the press cuz trump". Kinda lame. I know the answer but it's not as simple as it seems.

 

Nope, that’s not what I’m alleging.

 

What are you alleging with your post? Be specific.

"Why did the campaign pay him to rent his property?
If you can figure that out you’ll understand"

 

GASP! shocking revelations!

 

Cohen broke the law. He has admitted it.

He has also said under oath that he broke the law with Trump's knowledge and at Trump's direction. That's a conspiracy, and Trump would be guilty of that.

What it boils down to: Trump committed a felony for the purpose of being elected POTUS. That should be enough to impeach. It would have been enough to impeach and convict Nixon, had he not resigned.

 

What he did was to direct the commission of a felony. That's conspiracy. That's a felony.

 

IF it can be proven that what Cohen said is true, which is sort of the purpose of this URL and thread..... Before, it was just she said/she said (Cohen/Trump), but with the help of David Pecker (LOL) and Weisselberg, it seems Cohen's statements can be backed up.

This is as big as it gets, until Mueller possibly submits something bigger...

 

The problem is that the perpetrators identies are just too obvious ... Who bothers to read a "mystery" or "suspense" novel that puts the "spoiler" on the front cover? Now "17 separate intel agencies" and a hawkish "retired British spy" ... that's a best seller. :: Stuffing ballot boxes, and counting absentee / provisional ballots, twice? That's just to ordinary an event.

 

That while he can spend his own money on his campaign, it has to be reported. Even though it’s his money, If its spent on the campaign there are laws to follow

 

Report: Trump played central role in hush payoffs to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal

No...say it aint so.....

 

Under what law? What felony did he direct? Be specific rather than, "he broke the law cuz felony."

 

Now you are closer than anyone in this thread has come to getting to the heart of the issue. Only if it was campaign money does he have to declare it. Nobody has offered any proof that it was campaign money.

 

Except Michael Cohen and the SDNY.... read his plea (or you can take the shortcut and read my signature)

I'm never sure where people get the impression this was Trump spending his own money.. it wasn't....

 

Still doesn't prove that they used campaign money.

 

They didn't use reported "campaign money"... Cohen used his own money for Stormy and AMI paid for McDougal.. All money used for the purposes of the campaign is "campaign money", which is what Cohen stipulated to....

Sorry to tell you this, but trying to thread the needle that these payments were unrelated to the Trump campaign is DOA....

 

Sorry to tell you but your theory is real sketchy. We will just have to wait and see.

 

Trying to prove it is related to the campaign will be hard. A dude paid off a couple girls he slept with, so what? Anyone makes the argument to me that its campaign related I'd just laugh at them. That's an absurdly gross exaggeration of campaign finances. By that argument the gas in his car and his food are campaign spending.

 

Why should anyone care?

Is being puritanical now a requirement for public office.
Yet, JFK got a Free Pass during his life and history.

I guess only those who have never been accused
are the future models of Presidents. LBJ and NIXON come to mind.

Y'see, lusty presidents are better presidents.


Moi

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Said it before, I'll say it now, and I'm sure simplistic summaries like this one will force me to say it again in the future.

I don't really care who Trump banged, when, where, why, or how. Republicans used to claim to be the party of "family values", but I don't see anybody dying on that hill anymore, so I'm certainly not about to.

Hush money payments to some of these women in the heart of the campaign for "the principal purpose of influencing the election”?? Different story...

 

Why? One of the people making the payments said in court under oath that his payment was for "the principal purpose of influencing the election”. How is that unclear?

We don't know what Pecker has said on his payment, but I'd be stunned if his testimony wasn't essentially the same.

Even if we didn't have WITNESSES/PARTICIPANTS saying it was for the election, the timing (October) and purpose (Buying Silence) of the payments speak for themselves. To anybody willing to see the obvious.

P.S. Gas in the car and food can certainly be considered campaign expenses, depending on who is reporting the expense....

 

Another nothingburger, like the dozens of others the left has been breathlessly reporting on the last two years. At the most it was possibly, or not, a campaign finance violation, which all presidential campaigns do. Obama got one of the biggest campaign violation fines in history.

 

Exactly, it can reasonably be shown the payoff was to spare his family embarrassment, which makes it not a campaign violation. There was nothing illegal about his relationship with Stormy, he wasn't using a position of power to get sexual favors from subordinates, in the WH, as Clinton did.

 

I don't buy it as a "crime" anymore than
Clinton lying about his sex life under oath was a crime.

So, we disagree.

Let's keep sexual tryst and their ramifications
out of politics. It's the HUMAN Thing to do.
Or do you prefer LBJ & NIXON sorts?



How about we recognize whores and their
understood contractual promise of privacy.
Take them to court for breach of contract. Amen

Al Franken was a good public servant.
Hands across the aisle like Rohrabacher


Time to stop recognizing puritanical sexual hysteria as news worthy.

Let the "victim" take it to court or be held accountable for liable and slander.



Moi

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Great... by current count of the last 3 posts, I have 2 Clinton references and 1 Obama reference.

It will all be ignored until you can get your own house in order... which you cannot.

Engage in whataboutism at your own peril....

 

"principal
purpose
of
influencing
the
election"