Republicans have a problem

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sandy Shanks, Nov 22, 2017.

  1. Vet1966

    Vet1966 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You quote the WaPo and the NYT and all of the fake news outlets and you obviously cherry pick to support your opinion - which is far left and way off track. Did you think Obama was a great leader as he bowed to foreigners and lied to the American People.

    I accuse Trump of having a sense of humor and of trolling the fake news and I love him for it - especially when I read your never ending screed against Trump based mainly on his tweets.

    Then you say Moore shouldn't run based on accusations that have been debunked - meanwhile I don't see you looking for Conyers and Franken to resign for proven sexual assault.

    I would say your stance is built on hypocrisy.
     
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    I went by his quote. He said women let
    him grab them. And if any of them settled
    for money over their pride, obviously whatever he did or didn’t do wasn’t so bad.

    And technically you can’t be a sex offender if a court doesn’t deem it so. Thinking someone is is fine. Opinions are opinions. And why shouldnt he sue someone who accuses him of sexual assault a few weeks before an election? If it was so horrible what he did, they would have come out a long time ago when he was just a private citizen, not waited for the perfect
    time. It’s all too convenient. Far too many opportunistic women out for easy money.
     
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    I can respect anybody that makes the "left" cringe.
     
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    What has Moore been convicted of? And yes, Clinton committed adultery while in the White House, and other places. Being convicted by a court has nothing to do with the fact that he did commit adultery.
     
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    I fully agree. There is only one problem. Trump is the President. It is insane for our President to consistently do things that bothers us, like a racial slur at a solemn ceremony, denying the Access Hollywood video after first apologizing for it, and endorsing a pedophile for the U.S. Senate. I could go on, but you get my point.

    He does those things for two reasons. One, to be the center of attention. Two, to piss us off. He is the most divisive President in our history and he does it on purpose.
     
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    New study out says Anti-Trumper's who are obsessed with the fact Trump won the election and cannot seem to put it too rest are shortening their lives. Shouldn't you be more focused on Al Franken and John Conyers or do they get a free pass?
     
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    Your anger and hatred is clouding your judgment. Trump does not control your life, no president does. There is no reason to place him on a pedestal as if without him, you are nothing. That goes for any president. They are just as human as you and I. Having the job of the president is no picnic. While pleasing many you piss off many, especially in such a divided nation.

    The nation is in the midst of falling. No president at this point is going to please all, nor could they. The rate at which it's falling is only increasing. Principalities are key to the success of any nation, and we are tremendously divided among them.

    Don't get mad at the president, it's the peoples fault. Our leaders are a reflection of the people.

    Americans are content with the fact the government has the ability to print money out of thin air, they can raise and lower the debt ceiling, raise and lower interest rates, bail out banks and top corporations with American tax dollars, inflation with all the QE's, I believe there was 6 or 7 QE's done by Obama and his administration. Such practices are impossible among the people, we have to have checks and balances, we cannot spend more than we bring in at such a gigantic level. It's all legalized fraud. And Americans don't care.
    Damn why can't I be in charge of printing money?

    Americans have kicked God out of the pubic under the notion of "church and state", when in reality that has nothing to do with church and state. The more Americans want to turn a blind eye to God, the more America seems to develop more problems. One doesn't have to believe in God, but the results are blatantly clear.

    Americans are content with all the lies and deceptions as well, such as Hillary emails, JFK, 9/11, destruction of the middle east, the list doesn't stop. Nobody cares, because they love not the truth. As a result.....well your seeing it.
     
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    Please let me know what was inaccurate with the WaPo article. Be specific. General characterizations are a sign of ignorance.
     
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    Trump is an admitted sexual predator. He has demonstrated complete inability to govern. He demonstrated that again today.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/trump-really-blows-it-this-time.519959/#post-1068324713

    I am sure legal scholars can find something, anything, with which to impeach him.

    No one is questioning the election results, not even the Democrats. They know they really screwed up.
     
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    That is pure B.S. For one thing, I am not angry. I am having the time of life. The bumbling Trump is amusing. Provide an example of my judgment being clouded. Be very specific because no one has any idea what you are talking about.

    I don't know where you are from, but instead of waxing philosophical about how terrible things are in the U.S., why don't you deal with the issues that are being raised. None of us need a lecture from you. We especially don't need the philosophical approach that the incompetent Trump is the new normal and we should just accept that fact and shut up.
     
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    Wow! Is there anything I can do to help?
     
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    Yeah, right, all the polls are wrong. All the stuff you hear in the media about Trump is a lie. It is all fake news. Trump didn't really say all those things defending the armed invaders of Charlottesville. That was an impersonator.

    Geez, I would hate to be a Trumpian. It requires avoiding all reality.
     
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    Honestly, that was very funny.

    No.

    On the other hand I am not concerned about Franken and Conyers. They can resign for all I care. I am concerned about our incompetent President. He proved it again today. Why aren't you concerned? He really blew it today. He made himself look like an idiot ... again.
     
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    It is good you admit to fake news. Baby steps....
     
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    Identify specific examples where the articles are inaccurate and explain why.

    Trumpians are great with blanket indictments like yours. When it comes to specifics, comes down to explaining what they are talking about, we don't get a reply.

    To them all news is fake news because they refuse to face reality.

    Prove me wrong. Give me the examples requested. Support your own statement.
     
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    Exactly, the Democrats blew it, especially Hillary. This is what happens when a political party picks, chooses or is chosen for them four years before the nomination process begins. I've given the Democrats Hades for that. Trump may not know how to govern and hasn't shown the capability to learn. I think he doesn't want to learn, he wants everything his way and if he doesn't get it, he begins a feud with whomever. Heck, Trump has more feuds going on with Republicans than Democrats.

    For impeachment to work, the American people have to be behind it. They must want it. Nixon resigned prior to impeachment, he knew most Americans supported it. Most Americans were against the impeachment of Bill Clinton. That was deemed to fail from the beginning. In fact Bill's approval rose from 59% to 65% during the impeachment trial.

    It will be the same with Trump. Unless the American people are behind impeachment, want it, charges are irrelevant, it won't happen. Sure, if the Democrats take the House next year, they can pass the articles of impeachment easily and force the senate into a trial. But there is no way to get the 2/3rds vote needed in the senate. Not unless the majority of Americans want it. It will be another wasted effort like it was with Bill Clinton. Whatever we do, we must not let partisanship hate rule the day.

    I'm more of a numbers guy, not that much ideological. I fall somewhere in-between the two major parties. I actually distrust and really dislike both major parties. Trump in my opinion is a thin skinned, obnoxious oaf who shouldn't have got within a million miles of the Oval Office. His persona sucks, I doubt he knows what he is doing, he tries to govern like he is still head of his reality TV show instead of president. But as of now, he hasn't committed an impeachable offense in my opinion.
     
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    Then keep bitc()()ng, because Trump is not going anywhere. Your crying over the current administration is no different than republicans when Obama was in office. And it never changes. No matter who is in the POTUS position everything stays the same. Because they are all on the same team. Wake the f()()k up!
     
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    You just don't get it. Just about everything he does is on purpose or has a purpose. He likes to play in two theaters at the same time. He is already laying the groundwork for the dismantling of Elizabeth Warren. She is the one who claimed being Native American and yet there has been no proof. He is going to find out one or another by bringing up the issue and just maybe some media outlet will investigate it. My first wife had high cheek bones but she was from Scotland. My second wife had a small oval face with sorta flat cheek bones and she was 50% Cherokee. When Trump throws out a name it is to get the press to start looking at that person. So why don't his supporters get upset. The conversation for the average republican on the street for years has been why can't the Republicans fight back like the Democrats have been doing for years. In Trump they see a fighter who is willing to dish it out and pick a fight with the best of them. It may not be pretty and it may be vulgar but at present he is the only person fighting for us.
     
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