Republican's Latest Monumental Faux Pas

My bad. I attributed what someone else posted to you so I apologize.

That Kavanaugh is a moderate is not a surprise seeing how no matter what political party that nominates someone the masses expect them to be political when in fact they often judge based on how they view things which has nothing to do with politics usually. They may lean right or left but often surprise the partisans with some of their decisions.

I expect Kavanaugh to judge on Roe as he stated during testimony.

 

As a note on procreation. If one were to rely on man for a decision you might as well make the limit 20 years old as man is a very rationalizing beast.

Procreation is the continuance of humankind so in essence, any death during pregnancy is a threat against mankind. The native Sioux embodied this in their own traditions by not allowing pregnant women around a medicine man while he prepared for a ceremony because pregnancy signified a child and continuance of the tribe and a lost pregnancy signified a lost child.

In the modern world where pregnancy is viewed as a hindrance to a modern lifestyle of course life is less valuable.

 

And he was wrong on virtually every argument. According to Today's Health in 1966 when I did my proabortion speech there were about 60k women killed and injured by botched abortions. Assuming a ten percent morbidity rate you're looking at about 1/2 the number of abortions as performed just two years after Roe, and please note higher morbidity rates make the numbers worse not better.

 

Overstates the case. Your argument is tantamount to saying I have the right to kill someone because I need a liver transplant.

 

OH this is such a bad argument. Should we be saving every sperm as well because it represents a potential human ?

Not sure if you have any environmental awareness but the threat to mankind is "MAN" as in too many of them. We need more contraception in this world to stem the plague of humanity. Good grief what a silly argument you have made. You speak as if humans are an endangered species. Due to the plague of humanity - abortion actually helps the future of Mankind rather than threaten it. Obviously contraception is a better method - but if your silly argument was taken seriously - even contraception would be banned - that is a far greater threat to "procreation" than abortion.

Good grief Hoosier - give your head a shake !

 

Roe vs Wade can be overturned by a future court.

 

No, actually, you did in post 4
"You mean a constitutional judge instead of a left wing partisan."
Back to you.

 

But there is in STATE constitutions? I don't think so.

 

The states can pass their own laws and amend their state's constitutions.

 

Wrong!

Abortion is an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT to choose which means that the Federal government is obligated to UPHOLD the rights of We the People including the right to choose whether or not to have an abortion.

 

Kindly refrain from PROJECTING your own fallacious beliefs onto others.

 

Wrong!

The 9th Amendment covers abortion rights as does the right to privacy.

 

How is that any different to those who believe that owning lethal firearms is morally wrong?

Aren't they "taking a back seat" to those obsessed with owning lethal firearms?

Your right to own lethal firearms has no impact on those who believe that owning lethal firearms is morally wrong.

Exercising the right to choose to have an abortion has no impact on those who believe that abortions are morally wrong.

 

Bovine excrement fallacy without any attempt at credible substantiation duly noted for the record.

 

No it was Johnson. He even got Republicans to follow his lead. Before he was president he had been a very persuasive senator. He was a master legislator, a skill he took to the presidency. He worked congress, like no other president. That is why he was so successful. No one, other than FDR and Lincoln, did as much to transform American culture. It was Johnson's successes that caused a realignment of the political parties and spurred the modern conservative movement, in opposition. That is still primarily what the modern conservative movement is, an opposition to what Johnson gave us. Equal rights and all.

 

I don' know where you come from, but most of the Blacks I know are fully integrated into American society. Something that could not be said 50 years ago. Thanks to Johnson.

What happens here, is the conservative habit of picking up on a low point of a certain segment, and then pretending as if it is the rule.

 

It really isn't about the constitution, as the constition is rules of government. The government isn't getting an abortion. In the same way as prohibition was wrong, as it wasn't the government that was doing the drinking.

 

What does fake polling data have to do with anything?

 

Quite the opposite. The Norse society of which Viking raiders came; had the practice of setting out deformed and sickly babies. It was a society that valued robustness, with the obvious physiological advantages, as a society, in the long run. Casting off the unwanted, makes the wanted even more valuable.

 

The Supreme Court doesn't share your version of reality. Roe v. Wade will stand. The asinine red state attempts to overturn Roe with insane laws on denying a woman's right to chose, will all die in lower courts. Your hopes of denying a woman the right to her own body will vanish like the ephemeral puffballs they are.

 

Just forwarding a natural argument why birth is an extension of life. The modern world, especially the Western world makes life less valuable.

 

Facts are facts. Before LBJ's so-called Great Society programs came into vogue African-American children were almost always born into two parent families. Now the illegitimacy rate exceeds 70% and most of those have no idea who daddy is, if that isn't total destruction it is pretty damn close. Most of the blacks you know could be counted on the fingers of one or two hands.

 

Dude it was Republicans lead his sorry ass there. Johnson was stonewalling civil rights legislation in the fifties less than a decade earlier.

 

!st Abortion and birth control are different issues. 2nd if that is your problem we should simply save the planet and nuke India and China. That would after all eliminate a couple of billion right of the top.

 

Not one of these laws eliminates Roe V wade. It does however sharply limit the carnage.