Republicans plan to reintroduce Anti-LGBT ‘religious freedom’ bill supported by Trump

Fine. Just don't complain when Hillary starts her "I told you so" tour in 4 years.

He did not get elected by promising to make it alright for businesses to discriminate based on sexual preference. Reverse Obamacare, bring jobs back, balance the budget, secure the border, and protect my second amendment rights.

The right to religious freedom ends where ones right to equality begins.

 

What YOU call "equality rights" infringes on the First Amendment.

What are you going to say next? freeom of speech is limited to being nice, and if you think my speech is bad it should be illegal?

Because that is exactly what you're doing.

People can be gay, get married and do whatever makes them happy, however they cant DEMAND that private businesses cater to them.

That is called fascism.

 

For a guy who pretends to defend the constitution, you sure don't know much about it. You can ABSOLUTELY create a religion on a whim. The same right you are using to defend you right to religion, gives me the right to create one !!!!

Do you even know what a right is ? "a moral or legal entitlement to have or obtain something or to act in a certain way". So when again does your "right" usurp mine ?

So you don't agree with equal rights under the constitutions.

 

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"Public Accommodations" became a lighting rod for attention with The Civil Rights Act of 1964: Title II - Public Accommodation This is the clause the federal government uses to force enterprises to do business with "all" people;
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"All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin." ​

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Since this law became enacted, the courts have also decided this includes Americans with Disabilities (ADA) and most recently same sex accommodations through the Obergefell decision. The issue is; Can potentially aggrieved parties be granted relief from certain aspects of the Public Accommodations law, via religious exemptions, courtesy of a " First Amendment Defense Act"? On a legal level, this question needs to be answered. How far can a government entity go, mandating human behavior and beliefs?

 

No you cant just create a religion.....

There are prerequisite for the government to recognize religion(s).

Well, you can create a religion but that doesn't mean you will be protected via the First Amendment like Christian, Muslim, Jew etc would.

 

Probably because churches accept gay people openly into their congregations?

 

Some do some dont...

Some chuches dont even accept all Chrisitians - some churches won't even marry people outside their congregation.

Then denomination matters too.

But hey, why let that get in your way?

 

I don't think your opinion on the matter matters at all.

 

That isn't an opinion it's a fact.

 

No what I mean is you're irrelevant. The Supreme Court is gonna come down hard on this. When will you people learn.

 

You do realize the SCOTUS is going to be padded with actual justices that aren't activists right?

Fascists you are thinking you can stomp on religious freedom - not only that but force people to serve you.

Who the (*)(*)(*)(*) you think you are?

 

And why do people automatically think if you're gay then you're not a Christian? They can be whatever they want. They aren't causing trouble for wanting a weddin cake for their wedding. Just listen to yourselves. You say they're causing trouble on purpose because they want a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing wedding cake. That's crazy. Stop it.

 

Yes and no. It's petty to impose your sex life on random strangers, and petty as a business person to worry about the sex lives of random strangers.

Generally speaking though, I'm for businesses placing prominent signs advising that they have the right to refuse service (for any reason). I've seen these in many, many businesses, and it has not once 'put me off' giving them my money. I've also lived in places where businesses refused to serve me because of the colour of my skin .. and I didn't care. I mean, I was annoyed at the inconvenience, but not 'emotionally damaged' in any way. Taking it personally would have been entirely on me, not them.

 

So a gay couple wanting to order a wedding cake is them imposing their sex life on random strangers? So are you consistent and also believe straight people wanting to order a wedding cake is them imposing their sex life on strangers? Or are you just clearly a gay hating crank?

 

Yes, there ARE limits, and that's the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing point. Progressives don't want limits.

 

I agree with you....

I've been refused service before, no big deal I just find a place that will serve me..

I think posting signs is a good idea too.

Some signs may make me want to support that business even more.

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You really don't get it do you???

We aren't talking about just selling a gay person a wedding cake, we're talking about forcing the baker to be part of a gay wedding - do you not get that????

Do you really not (*)(*)(*)(*)ing understand that simple concept?

 

I agree. Any body or anybody indirectly funded by the non-voluntary taxpayer, cannot discriminate. Schools, hospitals, emergency services, etc.

But if your money comes directly from people voluntarily offering it to you, you should be free to decline that money - voluntarily.

 

Oh I wasn't aware that cake bakers were forced to attend the weddings of the cakes they've made... HAHAH. Dude. Listen to yourself. It's a cake. It's money to the baker that's all it is.

 

The pizza shop was...... You ever been to a catered event?

You can rationalize it how you like, that's fine - however just because you think it's goofy doesn't mean that others don't take their faith seriously....

Baking a cake is contributing to a gay wedding....... You may as well demand that a Muslim butcher you a pig for your gay wedding because it's the same damn thing.

But of course I have the feeling you would respect the Muslims First Amendment rights, but the Christian is just being a bully right?

 

If Christians took their faiths seriously they wouldn't be republicans. They wouldn't be political st all. And they certainly wouldn't judge because they'd know the only ones who is capable of judgement is their lord and saviour. I'm not religious and even I know that.

 

The knuckle dragging religious right strikes again. It's sad to see so many ignorant people trying to legislate their bronze age superstitions into law. Bible thumpers need boogeymen like the LGBT community to take their minds off the fact that they are giving their money and freedom of thought to the greatest scam in human history. Religion has been preying on the stupid, silly, afraid and weak minded for thousands of years. That isn't going to change any time soon. We'll see how far they get with their religious stupidity.

 

gay marriage is a special right for homosexuals
any special right should be banned.

 

Not even close. No one can demand anything from a business other than what they advertise and make available for everyone else. No more; no less.

Buy a building and put up a sign "We don't rent to Christians" and test your theory on what can't be demanded from a business.

 

You mean like special rights for handicapped people as well?

 

You mean be a fascist progressive that shoves their (*)(*)(*)(*) down everyones throats?

or like the progressive here who claims he's more moral than Jesus?

You see, this really has to do with Christians - NOT the gays........

The progressive hatred for Christians (probably white people too) bleeds through your posts.

The progressive ideology is based on HATE, ENVY and COVETING...... And you have the audactiy to claim Christians would be progressive if they took their faiths seriously? no that would make them Satin.

Really how great are progressives? what do they actually do for people? oh yea thats right - absolutely nothing - what they do is look to government to impliment their "liberalism"....... Progressives don't give to the homeless - no - they give to organizations that murder babies. They don't give to the hungry - they give to animal shelters.....

It's (*)(*)(*)(*)ing gross.