Republicans Took a Woman’s Right to Choose. Now They’re Threatening Her Right to Travel

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Asserted, nothing in evidence counselor. Show me the law.
     
  2. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    I just posted several republicans and gop groups saying that’s the plan lol
    Bury your head all you want, gas lighting won’t work when we can literally quote republicans saying they wanna do this
     
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    You can copy and paste all the fake leftist media you want. But no Republican legislation is supporting any of this.
    But 15%ers like yourself, are just so gullible you will copy and paste anything you can find to gas light. Its all you're doing.

    Or you can prove you aren't a gas lighter spreading fake news by going to the Thomas More Society and show us where they are drafting legislation (which they can't actually do)
    https://thomasmoresociety.org/
    When you fail with that claim, you can move on to The National Association of Christian Lawmakers which are advocating for making a federal law across all states that conform with the heartbeat bill and any violation would be reported with NOTHING legislating ANYTHING about getting abortions legally in other states that don't conform with the origination state.
    https://christianlawmakers.com/

    Which means YOU are the one gas lighting with your fake media claims
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Again, speculation. Show the law counselor. Who is going to support the passage of noted ideas? Where is there traction for these notions you cite?
     
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    Lol quoting republicans is fake leftist media

    “Just because you jump across a state line doesn’t mean your home state doesn’t have jurisdiction,” said Peter Breen, vice president and senior counsel for the Thomas More Society. “It’s not a free abortion card when you drive across the state line.”
     
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    Already posted. You’re free to bury your head
     
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    You suggested there was a propensity. Ok, now show there is traction. Not cited. Clearly, as also noted, constitutionally, these are not constitutional laws. You cannot escape that reality.
     
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    Again if you wanna ignore what your own party is saying then go ahead. We heard the same crap about overturning roe.
     
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    Thats regarding Texas looking to punish a law firm for paying for either the abortion or paying for the travel to receive one and knowingly doing so and is no way directed at the individual seeking the abortion.

    While I don’t agree with the Texas law nor the reversal of Roe(one reason I’m leaving Texas, even though I love my state), that letter you posted is not restricting anyones right to travel. The lady who received an abortion is facing no punishment for traveling to get one and can do so again.
     
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    Wasn't that exactly the claim?
     
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    Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah

    Stop running if you aren't gas lighting and answer the questions YOU provided as YOUR evidence of something that doesn't exist

    Prove you aren't a gas lighter spreading fake news by going to the Thomas More Society and show us where they are drafting legislation (which they can't actually do)
    https://thomasmoresociety.org/
    When you fail with that claim, you can move on to The National Association of Christian Lawmakers which are advocating for making a federal law across all states that conform with the heartbeat bill and any violation would be reported with NOTHING legislating ANYTHING about getting abortions legally in other states that don't conform with the origination state.
    https://christianlawmakers.com/

    Or you can continue to run proving you are full of BS with no capability to dispute your own fake claims
     
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    If you wanna provide a link to anyone in the Republican party pushing for this legislation, then provide it.
    Other wise you are just another gas lighting lefty
     
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    If you criminalize doing something you are infringing on that right, but they won’t by physically stopped.
     
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    I quoted a guy from the more society. You wanna pretend it’s fake then you do you.
     
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    I quote 2 elected republicans saying they want to or may
     
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    What the hell are you talking about? Does anyone have a "right" to steal or murder?
     
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    No, any other dumb questions?
     
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    If you don't make dumb statements I wouldn't need to ask you any type of questions.
     
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    What are you talking about? If you are trying to do something criminal, and the police catch you, they're going to stop you, physically (if you don't comply with verbal commands). That's how it works.
     
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    Yah that isn’t how a lot of laws are enforced. They don’t stop you from cheating on your taxes for example. They don’t stop you from beating your kids. Most laws are enforced after the fact actually.
     
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    Not really. Although no laws have been proposed yet, there are several groups that are working on this.

    https://www.adn.com/nation-world/20...-to-block-patients-from-crossing-state-lines/

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    Several national antiabortion groups and their allies in Republican-led state legislatures are advancing plans to stop people in states where abortion is banned from seeking the procedure elsewhere, according to people involved in the discussions.

    The idea has gained momentum in some corners of the antiabortion movement in the days since the Supreme Court struck down its 49-year-old precedent protecting abortion rights nationwide, triggering abortion bans across much of the Southeast and Midwest.

    The Thomas More Society, a conservative legal organization, is drafting model legislation for state legislators that would allow private citizens to sue anyone who helps a resident of a state that has banned abortion from terminating a pregnancy outside of that state. The draft language will borrow from the novel legal strategy behind a Texas abortion ban enacted last year in which private citizens were empowered to enforce the law through civil litigation."

    So, if the Thomas More Society doing this now, it will be a matter of time before such laws are proposed. The question is, would all GOP representatives and senators would agree to go this extreme or not in states like Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, etc.
     
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    I think you just don't want to acknowledge that certain anti-abortion activists and groups want to do this. As Peter Breen stated, “Just because you jump across a state line doesn’t mean your home state doesn’t have jurisdiction." Peter Breen is Vice President and Senior Counsel of the Sir Thomas More Society. Breen also said, on his FB Page, "We should not sit quietly but rather start pushing state legislatures to protect unborn children — when you win you push harder to grasp the victory that Dobbs allows us to achieve.”

    The real question is, would other Republicans go for this extreme.
     
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    Well, those wouldn't be Republican legislators, now, would it. lol

    Because the Thomas More Society is pushing legislation for the heartbeat bill in all states and their request says nothing about crossing state line laws.
    But if you're gullible enough to take the leftist gas lighting claims, you go right ahead.
     
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    None of which are Republican congressmen or legislatures.
    Everything else is blah blah blah for the gullible 15%ers
     
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    Still running from your Thomas More Society and The National Association of Christian Lawmakers claims are ya.
    I would run too.

    Still waiting on these magical links you can't provide
     

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