Rittenhouse Judge receives ‘thousands’ of vile messages and death threats - LIB MEDIA ARE SILENT!

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  1. Reality

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    No ****. I think you're confused.
     
  2. AARguy

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    Well, you keep denying
    1. What the Jury decided
    2. What we all saw in the TV coverage
    3. What the video record showed
    4. The truth
    5. The Law

    And have fun with your denial.
     
  3. Reality

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    Yeah, you're confused. Go back and check my post history o esteemed member of the brain trust.
     
  4. independentthinker

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    Sticks and stones. Most decent people wouldn't be protesting in an area where violence was a good possibility. Most decent people wouldn't be chasing after a guy with an AR. Most decent people wouldn't let a guy holding an AR provoke them. That's just plain stupid.
     
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  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Having a plastic bag thrown at you is not adequate provocation to shoot someone dead with a rifle. Full stop.
     
  6. AARguy

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    The provocation was hardly having a bag thrown at him. The one survivor who was shot admitted he pointed a pistol at Rittenhouse. The video showed the oter two threatened him with grievous bodily harm too. Ask any of the 12 jurors.
     
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    Grabbing your gun does.
     
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    Yes, without any evidence accepted by court.
    Attorney General William Barr (nominated by President Trump) didn't find any fraud
    Over 50 judges (some nominated by President Trump) didn't find any fraud
    Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, both Republicans didn't find any fraud
    Vice president Pence didn't find any fraud.
    Supreme Court Justices Appointed by Republicans Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh, John Roberts didn't find any fraud.
    Christopher A. Wray, Director of the FBI (Appointed by President Trump) didn't find any fraud.
    Attorneys for famous Trump supporter Sidney Powell are asking a federal judge to dismiss a defamation lawsuit filed against her, claiming that “no reasonable person” thought the pro-Trump lawyer’s statements about the 2020 election results were factual.
    Christopher Krebs, director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency didn't find the election fraud.
    Many Republican Senators didn't find any fraud.
    Many Republican Congressman didn't find any fraud.
    Lt. Gov. Texas Dan Patrick offered a $1 million reward for any information leading to the arrest and conviction of voter fraud.
    The only person to claim the rewards was Lt. Gov. Fetterman of PA, who offered up two persons, both were Republicans.
    No one else has claimed the reward.

    But you of course don't have to trust the above people, you can trust Honest Don who always tells the truth:

     
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    So... I assume that your great-great-great grandchildren will STILL be obsessing over Trump too? They will have no life outside of Trump either?
     
  10. Reality

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    You're right that would not be adequate provocation. Which is why its not being claimed as same by anyone but you as a strawman. Being chased, assaulted, lunged at, and the person lunging getting hold of your rifle barrel (shown by forensics) are each of them adequate provocation under the circumstances we see on video.
     
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    You started the discussion about evidence about the election fraud - so I guess you are right, if yours great-great-great grandchildren will try to prove there was an election fraud and my great-great-great grandchildren will try to answer to yours great-great-great grandchildren - it will mean my great-great-great grandchildren bossed with Trump too.

    Sorry for destroying your faith in a man who always is telling the truth.
     
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    I never mentioned the election fraud. But I'm glad you recognize it as such.
     
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    But the reason Rittenhouse was being chased was because he had shot Joseph Rosenbaum dead for throwing a bag at him

    The two others, only one of whom survives, maintain they thought Rittenhouse was an "Active Shooter" and the evidence I've seen shows that to be an not unreasonable supposition.

    So now if someone starts shooting people at the local mall and you heroically attempt to stop him he can shoot you dead and get off on 'self-defense' ?
     
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    Wrong again. Forensic evidence the first shot Rosenbaum got was his hand which showed powder burns on only half of his hand. The testimony is Rosenbaum grabbed his gun by Kyle and Rosenbaum lunged at Kyle by one of the (LOL) prosecutions star witnesses.

    If you didn’t notice, the only shots wasted were at drop kick man. Other than that Kyle showed great restraint by only shooting his attackers and no one else.
     
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    Yes, you are right, you never mentioned the election fraud, so let us remind our discussion:

    My question is what will happen in 2024 if according to the official result Republicans lost, but without any LEGAL evidence Republicans will claim there was an election fraud, similar to what happened in 2020.

    I am sure you know the law and you know that the party who won according to the official results doesn’t need to prove anything, only the part which question the official results must prove in courts that there was an election fraud.
    I am sure you know that breaking into the Capitol with a chorus singing ‘Hang Mike Pence’ in not considered as a legal evidence.
     
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    Plenty of evidence. No court wanted to be involved.
     
  17. Reality

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    Ok. So this first sentence tells me several things. 1) You haven't watched the tapes of the incident which have been freely available since the incident occurred, in real time. Likewise you haven't watched the trial, where the tapes were played and discussed. That means 2) you've been spending time in this and other threads talking about the case, but not watching the tapes and the trial to inform your opinion.
    That would leave me with 3) your opinion should be disregarded. It would also lead me to 4) you should be ruthlessly pilloried and mocked for such behavior on a discussion forum, alas its against the rules and the mods are awfully touchy when I give someone their just desserts :( So we'll all just have to suffer through your behavior.

    Now: Rosenbaum was shot for chasing him down to bay, lunging at him, and getting a hand on the weapon. Per the forensic expert who testified, and the autopsy, and the numerous videos of the incident. Not for throwing a bag.

    Huber and Grosskreuz: Are not authorized to chase someone down who isn't shooting people any longer, per the laws of Wisconsin. Mr. Rittenhouse was fleeing, this is on tape, and Mr Huber attacked him, twice, with a deadly weapon, before being shot. Grosskreuz admits in testimony he only got shot when he aimed at Rittenhouse. Others who approached Rittenhouse but raised hands and backed off were not shot. Grosskreuz could've kept his hands up and backed away and run off like the others. He didn't. Instead he pointed his weapon, and got the obvious result.
    These are all 3 justified incidents.

    If he's still shooting people? No. If he's fleeing after shooting people? Not in Texas as the laws are different. See how that works?
     
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    That "bag" story is pure BS.
     
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    What will happen if Martians invade Hoboken? What if the sun goes nova?
    Sorry, I don't have time for "what ifs". I'm too busy with what actually IS.
     
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    You are right, there is plenty of evidence of the election fraud, but:
    No court wanted to be involved, 50 courts that were involved but didn't see any evidence of fraud.
    Attorney General William Barr (nominated by President Trump) didn't find any evidence of fraud.
    Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, both Republicans didn't find any evidence of fraud.
    Vice president Pence didn't find any evidence of fraud.
    Supreme Court Justices Appointed by Republicans Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh, John Roberts didn't find any evidence of fraud.
    Christopher A. Wray, Director of the FBI (Appointed by President Trump) didn't find any evidence of fraud.
    Attorneys for famous Trump supporter Sidney Powell are asking a federal judge to dismiss a defamation lawsuit filed against her, claiming that “no reasonable person” thought the pro-Trump lawyer’s statements about the 2020 election results were factual.
    Christopher Krebs, director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency didn't find any evidence of fraud.
    Some Republican Senators didn't find any evidence of fraud.
    Some Republican Congressman didn't find any evidence of fraud.
    Lt. Gov. Texas Dan Patrick offered a $1 million reward for any information leading to the arrest and conviction of voter fraud. The only person to claim the rewards was Lt. Gov. Fetterman of PA, who offered up two persons, both were Republicans.

    Conclusion: President Trump knows how to convince gullible Americans.
     
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    This is just the tolerant left exercising their First Amendment and expressing their views. That's why it's not considered news.
     
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    Threatening to kill a person and then chasing them down and attempting to disarm them, is
     
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    100% Rational objective observers should make three conclusions in this case:

    1. Kyle Rittenhouse was a dumb kid who stupidly inserted himself into a dangerous situation.
    2. The above does not invalidate his right to self-defense.
    3. The jury returned the correct verdict(s).

    The facts in this case were so clear, that it is again obvious to rational people that the kid should not have even been charged, In fact, if anyone should have been charged, it should have been multiple felon (and now one-armed "paramedic") Grosskreutz who clearly pointed a handgun he wasn't supposed to have at the young LARP. In Wisconsin, this is a felony-level offense called reckless endangerment. Furthermore, he committed perjury when he lies under oath about the gun, only recanting his original testimony when confronted with video evidence clearly showing him not only in possession of the verboten roscoe, but pointing it at the head of the defendant. The utterly corrupt imbecile they call a "prosecutor" will not be charging the woke felon because he has the right politics. We are now living in a banana republic.
     
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    You are 100% right, Jan 6 very peaceful walk into the Capitol is nothing serious to be worried about. Who cares if in 2024 this scenario will be repeated. There is nothing to learn and nothing to be worried about.
    Sorry for mentioning this very patriotic event.
     
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    Courts didn’t see any evidence because 95% were dismissed for procedural reasons so no discovery and no evidence ever presented.
     

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