RITTENHOUSE Verdict unleashes CELEBRATIONS, on the RIGHT

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  1. Rampart

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    i have no problem with self defense, and the evidence is not clear to me that this was not self defense.

    rittenhouse was serving no official purpose at that location, was not uniformed, badged, sworn, trained, disciplined or following the orders of a legal authority. a curfew was in place precisely to simplify the duties of the actual law enforcement, which rittenhouse was not.

    which brings us to the weapon, which was not (or so i have heard) carried across state lines. was there a background check? a waiting period? some person gave an out of state 17 year old an ar-15 and left him alone in the middle of a riot? maybe that is all legal, but it seems kind of stupid on a good day.

    out
     
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    False and false.

    Rittenhouse was not attacking anyone. If you want to feel safe from someone like Rittenhouse, don't attack him. Don't threaten him. Don't chase him. Easy smeezy.

    Peaceful protesters, simply walking down a street chanting and carrying signs have nothing to fear from a peaceful, law-abiding citizen protecting a business. Nothing bad will happen to them. Again, easy smeezy.
     
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    1. It confirms to all the leftist who want to riot and burn businesses, that they don't have a right of self defense when they attack individuals protecting property.
    2. It confirms the right to self defense from criminals who decide they are triggered because someone decided to protect their business with a gun.
    3. It confirms how wrong the left is claiming Rittenhouse was an active shooter or somehow lost his right to self defense because he had a gun.
    4. It confirms that juries are not going to succumb to tampering or threats to get guilty verdicts
    5. It confirms the prosecutorial misconduct and how far the left will go to falsify information to a court to get the outcome they want.

    In other words, if you want to burn down our businesses and attack people putting out fires who are lawfully protecting property, because leftist mayors refuse to allow out police to stop the criminal activity, you do so at your own risk.
     
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    was rittenhouse legally armed? are there any background checks or waiting periods that might apply to an out of state 17 year old?

    what made the weapons of the victims illegal?
     
  5. DEFinning

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    Accepting that, still, just seeing something, "as it should be," does not customarily result in so many, simultaneous threads on the upholding of the law, so your reply does not really address my question, as to what is behind the atypical intensity of the Forum reaction, from the Right.
     
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    Seems you were wrong again, huh. Yet even in the face of an anonymous jury finding you will still falsify claims about vigilante murder?
    You might want to figure out what vigilante means. lol
     
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    The left is big on symbols.

    And they know what this acquittal symbolizes.

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    So your vote for what goosed the reaction, to a result Republicans saw as just, was the despised mainstream media, falling on their faces, in utter failure?
     
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    Yes he was legally armed. He can legally OPEN carry rifles in Wisconsin. The rifle never left Wisonsin.

    The commies had extensive criminal records that made both open and concealed carry illegal for them.
     
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    Most of the threads I see appear to be from dissatisfied leftists.
     
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    Typically left two plus two equals some random number above 300 but less than 9000.
     
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    I hope things don't blow up there:
     
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    do your homework. Mr. Rittenhouse was legally carrying. As much as the liberal media tried to claim he was not. Hence, when the verdicts were read there was no gun charges. They had been thrown out due to him being legal.

    The weapons of the victim………victim was convicted felon. He was not allowed to have a fun.
     
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    DEFinning, this is a Political Forum. The people who are here are here because they follow politics closely. On either the right or left, this is an informed and opinionated crowd.

    Conservatives ....

    - Don't believe that merely possessing a firearm is a provocation.
    - Don't believe that openly guarding property from a riotous mob is a provocation.
    - Don't believe that if you are armed in a dangerous situation, you give up the right to self defense.
    - Don't want an uninformed and politically motivated POTUS making false, slanderous, and prejudicial statements about a defendant before his trial.
    - Do believe that no normal unarmed person can defend against an attack by multiple people at the same time.
    - Do not believe that the attacks against Rittenhouse were merely "a scuffle" akin to potentially suffering little more than some bruises from a bar fight.
    - Do not believe that if you're trying to run away from an attack, you are the aggressor.
    - Do not believe that shooting someone who is lunging at you who you shoot in the shoulder area, and the bullet travels into their back, got "shot in the back."
    - Do believe that a skateboard can be used as a deadly or dangerous weapon.
    - Do believe that if an attacker points a firearm at you, you may shoot in self defense.
    - Think it is deplorable, in fact, malicious, that a member of a major press organization would do anything that might tend to intimidate a jury.
    - Want criminal cases tried by real facts and accordance to the law, not turned into a kangaroo court like in Russia, where the law and the facts don't matter.

    So if a case garners national attention, and it has an outcome that validates these beliefs, of course conservatives are going to be happy about it.
     
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    He was legally carrying the weapon. All gun charges had been already thrown out of court because of being legal. If what bothers you is that it “seems kind of stupid” well the 2A dosent have a stupid disqualification in it.

    He was legally able to be there just as everyone else was. No more,no less.
     
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    eSPN and the NBA seem to think their opinions on self defense issues are things we care about. Have any of the major sports teams commented on the murders in NYC, Detroit, New Orleans, Baltimore, St. Louis, Oakland, Chicago, LA, Memphis, Albuquerque? Nope.

    Milwaukee Bucks to 'continue to fight for better' after Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty in Kenosha protest shootings

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...se-found-not-guilty-kenosha-protest-shootings
     
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    First of all the non criminal “protesters” as you call them had been causing trouble prior to getting shot. One was seen setting fires. So the criminals who got shot were actually rioting. Big difference between Protesting and Rioting.
    And one of the felons held his illegal pistol up to Kyles face earning him a bullet from the AR. Another peaceful “protester” hit him in the head with a skateboard. Another tried to kick him in the face.
    So really in all actuality. Any normal thinking person would realize that if you are out rioting and choose to attack the guy with the big black gun you will most likely get shot. IDK, it just seems most thinking people would realize this. Kyle should sue their estates for all he can get for having to shoot them to stop the threat on his life.
     
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    Bari Weiss continues to amaze:
     
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    My statement, "a small victory for the liberty and the system of justice we enjoyed before January 21, 2021 is in order" means what to you? What team enjoyed 250 years of liberty that you claim is my own team? I think your thread is a perfect example of the sensibilities of many Americans who want to believe that America is defined by systemic racism and you wanted your perspective proved by the conviction of a white guy for shooting 3 other white guys in self-defense. You can get away with it on a message board. The prosecutor, who may well have broken the law seeking a conviction by any means, could well be facing disbarment for ,,, pursuing this case at all given the evidence of self-defense, evidence which he withheld. This wasn't a trial. Like the Duke Lacross case that got Mike Nifong disbarred, this was a career move. A win would have made him wealthy.

    This case is meaningful to those who value liberty because it defines the peril faced by the country. Starting with a rapist with a knife in his hand being shot when he made an aggressive move toward a policeman with a gun, Kenosha became a magnet for every left wing victim of race hustling rhetoric for miles around. Then we had media spin, downplaying the violence:
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    We had state and local officials tell the police to stand down as the mob burned down the city.

    Then we had a candidate for President calling the defendant a "White Supremacist", convicting him without a trial.

    I feel bad that someone had to lose, but I am pleased that my team, America, won. I look forward to the defamation lawsuits that will make people think twice about running this kind of hoax again.
     
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    Speaking for myself and not one side or the other of a false and socially engineered political dichotomy, I always celebrate the triumph of the individual over the collective. It so seldom seems to happen that it is a cause for real exuberance.
     
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    Look at the trigger discipline that Kyle shows in that pic. Now contrast that with the prosecutor.

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    The dumbass prosecutor looked like he was about to pull an Alec Baldwin on the jury.
     
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    Partisans engage in this behavior relatively frequently. The most recent time was the Jan. 6 capitol riot, but it can frequently occur around shootings, military engagements, and high profile trials particularly involving sex or race. Justice Kavanaugh's confirmation comes to mind.

    It has intensified since America began turning it's cultural inclination towards moral absolutism, and absolute victory in on itself following the cold war. This is a nation of competitors it's woven into every aspect of out history, and culture. A few decades as the world's unchallenged super power has left a void for something to struggle against. So now we have our own cold civil war to fight, and victories of morale are more important in it than any territorial conquest.

    That is the victory they are extrapolating. Because this incident happened in what could be considered the closet thing we have to skirmishes in this war. Clashing protests/riots. The liberals/Democrats are giddy about the arrest of Jan 6 rioters for largely the same reason. Of course both of these perspectives are rationally preposterous. In both instances we have tragic consequences to delusions of grandeur by all parties involved, and hardly a victory for anyone who is truly interested in what would benefit the country over what would benefit their confirmation bias.

    That is all we are left with at the moment, and as more people than ever have found ways to monetize the conflict I see the trends only increasing until it reaches the point of widespread violence OR until we are once again externally threatened. Very few people are thinking for themselves anymore, and even fewer ever consider why they think that way. To do so is almost a betrayal of the partisans very identity as a person because partisans have there politics so entwined with their personality that they become indistinguishable.

    They'll condemn violence then condone it. They'll oppose increased executive power until they like the president. They'll limit the filibuster when in power, and act like it's the greatest thing since sex when they are the minority. They'll say the other partisans are childish, ignorant, ect. Then hyuck like hyenas at some childish meme their partisans come up with.

    It's not all bad though it is the same trait that has pushed us forward as a nation, and established us. With the internet age however it's become decidedly more copy paste than it was say in the reconstruction era were domestic tensions this high.
     
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    I don't know if anyone is mentioned this yet but in my opinion that calls for celebration over this verdict is this....

    The left wing media ( in other words 95% of the media ) was resoundingly put on notice, that despite their best efforts to try this man in the court of public opinion and manipulate the public perceptions of this case, their best efforts failed.

    The left should actually appreciate this as well, though they probably do not understand why.

    If they can throw someone under the bus for being on the wrong side it's just a matter of time until they deem anyone on the wrong side
     
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    commies? that white biker from waco texas was a commie?

    how did he get the gun? waiting period? background check?
     

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