Do not **** with Israelis, my friend. Is the lesson that should have been learned by Arabs in 1948, yes. As it stands, looks like history is repeating itself today. Too bad for Palestinians
Netanyahu is a dupe. Hohhhh-Kayyyyy.... So, you have it straight now? Your count is off. "The demographic statistics of the CIA World Factbook and the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics estimated that the collective Palestinian Arab population in the region of Palestine, including Israel, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip, amounted to 5.79 million people in 2017. Thereof, 2.16 million Arabs live in the West Bank, 1.84 million Arabs live in Israel, and 1.79 million Arabs live in the Gaza Strip." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Palestinian_territories Do you understand the problem?
There are countries, exclusively Muslim that still throw gays off the tall buildings and stone unfaithful women. Take your preference.
Again, completely irrelevant to Palestinians being evicted out of their homes but not allowed to have the same rules applied regarding the houses that their ancestors owned in Israel.
Jews have been evicted from their home countries and their properties confiscated for centuries. Cry me a river!
It is not like we do not have a whole history of atrocity - hundreds of violations of the agreement that allowed them to exist - most of the time gaining more land that is not theirs. We annexed Kosovo .. how about we annex Gaza and the Occupied territories - given them statehood.
Speaking of US/NATO bombing Christian Serbs during Holy Lent/Easter to steal Kosovo from Christian Serbia... back while it was happening in 1999 I saw a TV new video showing US/NATO's temporarily staging area [that had lots of tents] right before they invaded Kosovo... in that staging area were tents with Israeli flags! .
LOL - kind of bumps up against a "Necessary Illusion" doesn't it - while pointing out how deceptive language is used in the media .. the side we like given terms like "Freedom fighters" - the side we don't guerrilla's - the new favorite now is "terrorists" During the wars in El Salvador and Guatemala - we were on the side of the Gov't death squads - but didn't hear them referred as such .. suppose dragging children over barbed wire - "till the skin hung from bone" -in front of their parents doesn't qualify as "the bad guys". - the other side was a popular revolution among the lower classes labeled "Communists" While over in Nicaragua the Gov't - who had the support of the people - was fighting the Sandinista's - "Contra's" who we supported so these guys were labeled "Freedom fighters"
Was a bad sht show that one - and annexation set a horrible precedent - specially given it was done without UN Security Council authorization.
That UN plan voted in by the predominantly white western nations refused to take into account the right of self determination of the Palestinians. Nobody asked the Palestinians if they would like to accept millions of foreign Jews to enter their lands and rule the country when they gotten a majority. That right is not some kind of request. And the first thing the Jews did, is massively ethnically cleanse about 80 to 90% of the country of the Arabs. THAT is what the Jews did, that is still what the Jews do. It's their burden they refuse to accept and is why the problems still exist today. You got no argument. So the parallel is there. The Balfour Declaration specifically says: it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country. And it is a fact the Jew ethnically cleansed the Arabs immediately, trashing their civil rights. And it is a fact that their right of self determination that other countries enjoy were not applied. What do you now say the west and the Jews trashed the Balfour Declaration?
According to the Oslo agreement... Israel had to withdraw their army in 5 years and the Israeli civil administration would be dissolved. At no point does Israel show they ever made any attent to comply with the agreement, they still show no sign at all that they are going to ever comply. So how is Palestina to blame when the Jew state already walked out? It is also, the Jew state, who at every point uses their thugs to keep on removing Arabs outside Israel to put in Jews there... and cry wolf when people violently object to being ethnically cleansed.
The problem began before the UN existed. By 1945, there were so many Jews and Muslims in Palestine that partition was the best solution. No one asked Native Americans, either. Unfair? Of course. If you're claiming the Arabs were treated badly by the Brits, you have my agreement. But the deal was done by 1945. Today, more than 70% of Israeli Jews were born in Israel and know no other home. Where are they supposed to go? They were colonized, the essence of repression.
You noted "If the Arabs had agreed to the UN partition, we would have now had more than 70 years of peace and progress." and it's just not true that it was about the Arabs just not agreeing, since the Palestinians right to self determination was not uphold. That is what the Arabs rejected it over.... and I'm not hearing a peep from you over it. You're just dropping it and ranting about soemthing else. whataboutism when there was no agreement that people had a right of self determination. I am not saying a thing about the Brits. You brought up Balfour Declaration as if this was the reason why this all is happening. And I noted that the west and the Jews breached it. So the problem are the people who colonize and their supporters: the west and the Jews. You got the west and Jews, not caring about the Balfour Declaration. You got the west and Jews, not caring about the right of self determination. Right to return? Ever heard about that? Breached by Israel. Oslo accords... also breached by the Jew state. They never dissolved the civil authority in the WB and retreated their army. You're not allowed to colonize in occupied territory. Israel is breaching it.
The Palestinians declined to sign the agreement and ended the process. That was a catastrophic error.
Thanks for aa very informative Post. The helpful Haaretz article you just cited went at lengths to detail Czechoslovakian aid to Israel but only briefly mentioned Germany's contributions of Messerschmitt fighters and strangely enough, German WW 2 era uniforms. The following three articles spell out the early beginning of Germany's endless payments to the Israeli government and its citizens. In reality, it was the Germans who made the desert bloom while Zionist terrorist gangs were busily exterminating Palestine's native residents in the most ruthless and brutal manner imaginable(*). How quickly the victims become the victimizers. “The Reparations Agreement of 1952 and the response in Israel” http://web.nli.org.il/sites/NLI/Engl...Agreement.aspx EXCERPT “As part of the reparations, many goods reached Israel which helped the state economy to stabilize over the years. For example, Israel received new-fangled German-manufactured trains, which were operated for a number of years by the Israel Railways”CONTINUED “Inside the Germany/Israel Relationship” http://www.momentmag.com/inside-germ...-relationship/ EXCERPTS “Federal Republic of Germany laid the groundwork for Israel’s infrastructure—including roads, railways and shipping—while simultaneously rebuilding West German industry. In addition to money, Israel also needed weapons. As early as 1954, German reparation funds were secretly being used to buy patrol boats, tanks and arms. Germany itself supplied Israel with weapons through a variety of back channels. Many details remain untold, but a 2006 U.S. Congressional Research Service report concluded that German-supplied arms “played a considerable role” in building up Israeli military might in the wars of 1967, 1973 and 1982."CONTINUED “German-Israeli Armaments Cooperation” http://www.bits.de/public/articles/cast06-02.htm EXCERPT “Israel profited from cooperation by having a reliable and quick source for spare parts and complete weapon systems – even in times of war, when other nations like the United States, Great Britain and France were more restrictive in supplying arms to Israel. Another advantage was the willingness of the German government to pay for these exports to Israel."CONTINUED ----------------------------------------------------------------- (*) "DEIR YASSIN MASSACRE (9 April 194" https://www.qassam.ps/occupation_terrorism-1200-DEIR_YASSIN_MASSACRE_9_April_1948.html EXCERPT "The tactics of the Zionist Jews were to frighten defenseless people into fleeing their homes out of fear for their lives. Two hundred and fifty people were slaughtered. Mutilating the bodies, even before death, the culprits cut off parts and opened the bellies of others. Nursing babies were butchered on the bosoms of helpless mothers. Of those two hundred and fifty people, twenty-five pregnant women were bayoneted in their abdomens while still alive. Fifty-two children were maimed under the eyes of their own mothers, and then they were slain and their heads cut off. Their mothers were in turn massacred and their bodies mutilated. About sixty other women and girls were also killed and their bodies mutilated. Such are the historical facts concerning the horrible crime perpetrated against the Arab village of Deir Yassin."CONTINUED
Absolutely how dare they think they had the right to deny the Jews the land that they lived on, self determination is not for the likes of Arabs! They should of bowed down to their Jewish masters years ago, again how dare they?
No, they don't have a "right of return." The UN partition gave both Israel and Palestine sovereignty. The Arabs--Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon--made a bad choice trying several times to crush the state of Israel. The Palestinians could have had the UN plan... All hope of that is gone.
Your "history" is rather selective. Do you actually think religious people creating a Jewish state are going to be Marxist-Leninists? "Jew state?" Egads.
But Christians come in all colors and ethnicities. How does that work if only the "True Israelites" become Christians? The same Jewish ethnicity produces people who go on to become Christians, atheists, practicing Jews, Muslims, you name it. That's humanity for you.
So, which ethnic groups are the True Christians and which aren't? And how genetically pure do they have to be?
In 1947, there were 630,000 Jews and 1,324,000 Non-Jews in Israel/Palestine. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.or...h-population-of-israel-palestine-1517-present The Arabs right of self-determination was not independent of the rights of Palestinian Jews. You can't bait me. Balfour reads: "His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country." This was the statement of intention to allow Jews to migrate in large numbers. The Jewish population went from 60,000 in 1918 to 630,000 in 1947. What's your SOLUTION to the problem? Israel has millions of Jews and millions of Palestinians who know no other home and have nowhere else to go.