Roe overturned

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The first stage .. of a human - is not a human LOL .. Perhaps English 100 might be in order prior to Biology 101 but you need to retake that as well .. as the genome is not complete until implantation. but, I schooled on this previously ..upgrading your education .. did you forget-- in your hast to return to the same unsubstantiated and refuted vomit -- in an attempt to deflect away from the fact that your SCOTUS claim was complete nonsense .. as they have not ruled the zygote is a Person .. with rights .. including the right to life .. contrary to the fantasy.
     
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    We are not talking about whataboutery.
    If the objection to abortion is that a sentient life is destroyed and therefore it is absolutely wrong, what it means in practice is that raped women must have the child if they’re made pregnant, or what is absolutely wrong isn’t quite that absolute because exceptions can be made in certain circumstances.

    In terms of being raped but not even knowing it had happened check out an extremely nasty person from the United Kingdom called Reynhard Sinaga.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynhard_Sinaga

    You will see from that link it is possible to be raped, even filmed, and not know it had happened. In circumstances like that a woman could become pregnant and not know about it for many weeks into the pregnancy.

    With an absolute ban on abortions a raped woman is obliged to bear the child.
     
  3. Ruger87

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    Right. So a living baby inside a womb that moves around, kicks, breaths, etc… is just a “clump of cells”. Total BS.
     
  4. Bush Lawyer

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    I have no confusion. I have now established that, so far as you are concerned, 'life' is ONLY what is set out in some artificial document.
     
  5. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is total BS is your assumed premise fallacy .. What baby ? .. at what stage do you think a baby exists.... the question you are avoiding .. "when does the soul arrive" .. and why .. and without a soul .. does a person exist.

    You already stated that at the zygote stage no baby .. OK .. so when does the baby show up

    and who said that at the "breathing stage" a human did not exist .. wasn't me .. so why are you claiming otherwise .. in a strawman fallacy frenzie.

    Do you have anything other than fallacy and BS mate .. making up positions and taring them to the other so you have something to attack .. the equivalent of fighting voices in your head.. sup with that mate .. what got you all turned up .. curls in a bunch that coherency has left the building.
     
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    No. Trump didn't say anything as vitriolic as this. She is inciting a riot and should be arrested and indicted for such.
     
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    I can't help noticing that the folks attacking pregnancy centers (both in practice and politicians verbally) are not pro-choice. They are pro-abortion. They want to see as many abortions as possible. They would like to see ALL babies aborted. They should stop the dishonesty, using the phrase pro-"choice".
     
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    Nearly 60,000 messages and only a mere 10,000 likes. It’s clear to see why. Obviously your input and opinions are widely rejected here. Tough luck.
     
  9. LangleyMan

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    I want to barf every time I see a a reference to my alleged "leftist ideology." Reagan recruited the rightwing religious types. You took over the Republican Party and called everyone who doesn't share belief in your Imaginary Friend as a leftist. There's no room in the Republican Party in a leadership position for anyone who doesn't pretend to be a Believer. Oh, we can vote for Republicans, but we're unwelcome as leaders.

    The whole Xtian thing in this country is pathetic when not even 50% of professed Christians can name the four gospels.
    You religious anti-abortion types aren't fooling anyone. You're pressuring vulnerable women to continue pregnancies.
    Thank goodness word is getting out about your one-sided counseling.
    Some are more conflicted than others.
    But along with the help comes your one-sided morality. You can't stop proselytizing.
    More of your proselytizing?
    Yeah, a woman I've known since 1967 (her husband since 1964) ran a battered women's shelter for two decades. She got women who were "helped" by religious types and had gone back to violent spouses.
    Too bad for you I know all about your "help."
    Considering the lies you made up about me ... Exodus 20:16. A mortal sin for those who actually believe.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Truth hurts mate .. not here for a popularity contest .. now did you have anything other than Ad Hom Fallacy to contribute .. something to say other than personal attack from the peanut gallery .. Did the "When does the Soul Arrive" question throw you into such a tizzy .. that coherent response escapes you .. whats up mate .. what has you so dizzy ?
     
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    Nobody buys into your BS. You've never been to an HCPC and have no clue what they do.
    Only an idiot would think an abortion minded woman would go to a HCPC for help.
    Then quote bible scripture in his response to claim the very Christian organizations who donates their time to helping these women are proselytizing.
    Your hypocrisy is about the same level as your silliness.
     
  12. LangleyMan

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    You're not fooling anyone with your preaching.
     
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    Says the poster using scriptures. lol
     
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    I’m not even bothering throwing a shade of effort in your direction. You don’t deserve it.
     
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    You aren't going to stop abortion, nor will anti-gun types round up folks' guns. I don't know why so many folks can't stop raining on other folks' parade.
     
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    Keep laughing. Exidus 20:16.
     
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    Yet you bear false witness against an organization you have never been too and women you have never met,
    How appropriate.
     
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    Reflexes do not prove a mind is there. No mind, no person.
     
  19. LangleyMan

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    It's not their place to preach. I spent decades watching some teachers—left and right—preach to students. It's not right.
    No, she should be helping the woman decide for herself.
    Yes.
     
  20. LangleyMan

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    Nice try, but no cigar. I do know what they're about. My wife and long-time friend dealt with them.

    You can offer help without preaching.
     
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    Can you provide supporting documentation for any of these statements?
     
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    But, being self-righteous, judgmental and <censoring myself> is so much fun! /sarc.
     
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    Vulnerable, scared, impoverished, some younger women booted out of their homes—they come for help. Some haven't made up their mind about abortion.
    No, my comment was directed to you on your comments about me.
    You don't like being called out, so you name call.
     
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    Do you have any idea what you're saying?

    Literally, the top search engines for "abortion, help, scared, pregnancy" is owned by anti-abortion groups. They trick women into coming to them for help so they can guilt trip her and push her to keep a pregnancy she does not want (for whatever reason).

    Maybe it would help if you actually tried to understand other people's point of view. You can't tell me what it's like because I'm the person that ends up picking up the pieces of these people's lives once they've been demeaned, shunned and outright harassed. It's clear you are playing armchair expert (once again).
     
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    Well, I've had a very liberal past. With it, I've experienced many many years and a decade in some cases of very liberal ways. Of first hand streets smarts. So, yeah, I know that I'm correct. For a fact.

    That and knowing some current liberal policies in states, such as Bernie Sanders in Vermont. Not to mention, Liberal politicians making sentences lighter for such scum, that rape.
     

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