Rogan has covid

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Your evidence for Ivermectin is what?
     
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    But by far the vast majority of us respond well.

    Here is British Columbia, you're eight times as likely to test positive if you're unvaccinated, and 15 times more like to end up in hospital.
    The vaccines reduce your chances of getting the virus, and the impact on you if you have a breakthrough infection.
     
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    Here is Australia well over 90% of those who end up in hospital with COVID are unvaccinated. Of those who are vaccinated and end up there the vast majority are either frail and elderly or else have some other serious underlying medical condition. In other words the vaccines do an excellent job of keeping people out of hospital.
     
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    Nonsense. Here in British Columbia, you're seven times less likely to catch covid, and you can't pass on what you don't get.
     
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    Those get it, but some seven times as many unvaccinated get infected.
     
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    They have been using Ivermectin on humans for sometime now.
    “Ivermectin was discovered in 1975 and is approved for use in humans to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms, head lice and skin conditions such as rosacea. When taken in appropriate, prescribed doses it can be highly effective and is included in the World Health Organization's list of essential medicines.”
    Maybe you should be better informed on the issue.
    Just saying.
     
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    Actually it was shown to be an effective therapeutic for covid in an Australian study. I'll let you look it up. I am too lazy.
     
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    It wasn't a cow dewormer. Do your research before you start spewing off "facts". It only makes you look bad.
     
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    So, you're touting an off label use of a drug based on what you think you saw work for two people and discouraging use of approved SARS-CoV-2 vaccines?

    Even if we believe you about the two people--a stretch considering very few people are around a covid patient long enough to make an observation about the effectiveness of a particular treatment--one wonders about your judgment as an observer.
     
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    Not according to the CDC source you cited above:

    "Unvaccinated people remain the greatest concern: The greatest risk of transmission is among unvaccinated people who are much more likely to get infected, and therefore transmit the virus. Fully vaccinated people get COVID-19 (known as breakthrough infections) less often than unvaccinated people. People infected with the Delta variant, including fully vaccinated people with symptomatic breakthrough infections, can transmit the virus to others. CDC is continuing to assess data on whether fully vaccinated people with asymptomatic breakthrough infections can transmit the virus."​

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html
    Vaccinated individuals are less likely to get covid and therefore less likely to transmit it. Yes, if you do get it, you're just as likely to infect others.
     
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    Good advice you might take to heart.
     
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    If they vaccinated get it, yes.

    But vaccinated folks are far less likely to get covid.
     
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    It seems to be actively researched right now with positive results. Rogan stated he was perscribed it from a doctor. Not the horse paste ****...the stuff designed to be given to humans.

    you...you knew there was a difference, right?
     
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    Vaccinated people are less likely to get sick. Not less likely to get covid. read the results.

    Here. Let me help you.

    For people infected with the Delta variant, similar amounts of viral genetic material have been found among both unvaccinated and fully vaccinated people. However, like prior variants, the amount of viral genetic material may go down faster in fully vaccinated people when compared to unvaccinated people. This means fully vaccinated people will likely spread the virus for less time than unvaccinated people.

    We are not talking Covid19 alpha strain anymore. Tell me again, how many people have the delta now instead of the alpha? (though I'm sure a smart guy like yourself already knows the answer)

    Note the key word in the phrase as well when it talks about fully vaccinated people. "May" as in "might" as in "maybe" as it might also be the case that it "may not" AND according to the studies I linked, it seems to be the case that it's a "might not". As they are discovering just as many vaccinated with covid as those unvaccinated. Vaccinated people are spreading it.

    So with all that now being the case we are back to the vaccine merely protecting the individual.

    Thanks for playing.
     
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    The jury is out on its effectiveness.
    I assume you meant animals.
    Yes, the horse dose is much higher.
     
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    While it started off as a drug used for animals, it's long since been used for both humans and animals. So your snide little comedy doesn't play into real world applications.

    Japan seems to be all on board with it.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

    Now I need to ask, why the hate if there is another OPTION for people who for whatever reason, do not want to get the vaccine? Are you upset they are not conforming to your expectations? How dare they!?
     
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    You still don't get it.

    Vaccinated people are less likely to get covid and therefore less likely to infect others. However, if they do get it, they're just as likely to spread it.
    Uh huh.

    Read this, then think:

    "As of Wednesday, Sept. 8, 2021, 85.2% (3,949,169) of eligible people 12 and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 77.7% (3,601,169) received their second dose.

    In addition, 85.8% (3,711,066) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose and 78.6% (3,400,194) received their second dose.

    B.C. is reporting 814 new cases of COVID-19, including 16 epi-linked cases, for a total of 171,564 cases in the province.

    Past week cases (Aug. 31-Sept. 6) – Total 4,691

    • Not vaccinated: 3,247 (69.2%)
    • Partially vaccinated: 403 (8.6%)
    • Fully vaccinated: 1,041 (22.2%)
    Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Aug. 24-Sept. 6) – Total 233
    • Not vaccinated: 184 (79.0%)
    • Partially vaccinated: 16 (6.9%)
    • Fully vaccinated: 33 (14.2%)
    Past week, cases per 100,000 population (Aug. 31-Sept. 6)
    • Not vaccinated: 244.4
    • Partially vaccinated: 108.3
    • Fully vaccinated: 30.0
    Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population (Aug. 24-Sept. 6)
    • Not vaccinated: 13.7
    • Partially vaccinated: 4.1
    • Fully vaccinated: 1.0"
    https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0054-001758

    If you don't get covid, you don't pass it along.
     
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    So how did this happen?

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc...tts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

    ooops!

    Talk about a freak happenstance, huh?
     
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    Note my point about the animal dosage being higher.
    Get a life. :roll:
    No, they're willing to try it. Not the same as endorsing it.
    You'll have to ask the people you say are responsible.

    It would be great if we came up with a cheap cure. (Ivermectin is not a cure even if it functions as advocates hope.)
    Who, about what?

    I'm "upset" pols haven't required vaccination passports or recent tests to access "places with faces"--schools, restaurants, bars, clubs, theaters, and so on. We all have an obligation to cut transmission and those vaccinated chose to do our part by assuming risks associated with getting the jab. Those who prefer not to get vaccinated need to do their part by restricting their activities, hence the vaccine passport.
    How dare they what?
     
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    Many thousands of people attended the events. We don't know how many were vaccinated.

    There's nothing inconsistent with what we know about the vaccines' effectiveness at preventing infection.
     
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    sorry charlie..you are the one that needs facts

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