Ron Paul ignored on an issue he owns

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  1. Flanders

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    The four Republican frontrunners leave a lot to be desired when it comes to US membership in the United Nations:

    Front-runner Mitt Romney says the U.N. too often becomes a forum for tyrants when it should be promoting democracy and human rights.

    Romney is right about tyrants and wrong about democracy and human Rights.

    Democracy sucks. Limited government should be promoted. That’s the exact opposite of Romney’s ideal United Nations.

    And somebody should give him copies of the UN’s 1948 Universal Declaration of Human Rights and our Bill of Rights. Not one Right in the Bill of Rights has to be paid for with tax dollars, while every human Right in the UN’s declaration has to paid for by somebody else. In fact, the UN’s piece of crap is the founding document for the “You owe me” political posture permeating socialist thinking today.

    Add Romney’s UN whine to his record:


    Romney's record is to the left of John McCain's
    by Philip Klein Senior Editorial Writer

    http://campaign2012.washingtonexami...confidential/romneys-record-left-john-mccains

    I know that Newt Gingrich is an intellectual because the MSM has been saying so for decades.

    Newt Gingrich pledges to take on the U.N.'s "absurdities."

    He’s probably too intellectual for me because I don’t know what the hell he means by taking on the UN’s absurdities? I think I’ll contact Jennifer Rubin and ask her:

    Gingrich: The phony intellectual
    By Jennifer Rubin

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-intellectual/2011/11/17/gIQA5VCGUN_blog.html

    Instead of the UN, Gingrich should take on Herman Cain’s absurdity:

    Herman Cain says he would change some of its rules.

    Changing the rules makes about as much sense as telling Willie Sutton there’s going be some new rules in the way he robs banks.

    And Rick Perry says he would consider pulling the United States out of the U.N. altogether.

    At least Rick Perry is on the right track, although I can’t see what he has to consider? If he does not know what to do about the UN by now he’ll probably cave in to the global government crowd should he become president. Let’s face it, those people have been perfecting their story since 1945, and they have media support. I’m not convinced Perry has the backbone to stand up to them.

    Ron Paul got more than a short count in the AP article I’m working with —— he did not get a mention. I guess the article’s author, Anita Snow, never heard of HR 1146. Ron Paul first introduced it in 1997. He reintroduced many times since then; most recently in March of this year; so I have to assume he has the balls to dump the UN if he gets the chance. None of the other candidates show one-tenth of the commitment Ron Paul has demonstrated time and time again.

    Stating the obvious


    Case in point: Even the harshest American critics were silent earlier this month when the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog concluded that Iran was probably developing nuclear arms.

    I do not think posting messages on a message board meets the AP’s criterion for American critic; nevertheless, I remain vocal in my objection to the UN’s existence.

    Did Iran’s nuclear program come as a surprise to the Associated Press because the UN confirmed it? Answer: Yes —— if the AP is headquartered on Mars. That might be the case because stating the obvious reads like a UN press release: Heavens to Betsy, we just found out Iran is working on the bomb; so we better get moving on a global government administered by the United Nations.

    Finally, since Hiroshima and Nagasaki the atomic bomb has been doing political damage. I realize I’m comparing oranges and apples but the political fallout from those two bombs has been far more devastating than the fallout from real bombs.

    You gotta love the title of the following article. It says that UN bashing is NOT popular among Democrats.


    UN bashing is popular among Republican candidates
    By ANITA SNOW, Associated Press – 31 minutes ago

    UNITED NATIONS (AP) — It seldom fails as an applause line for Republican presidential candidates: beating up on the United Nations.

    Front-runner Mitt Romney says the U.N. too often becomes a forum for tyrants when it should be promoting democracy and human rights. Newt Gingrich pledges to take on the U.N.'s "absurdities." Herman Cain says he would change some of its rules. And Rick Perry says he would consider pulling the United States out of the U.N. altogether.

    All that U.N. bashing has raised questions about whether a Republican victory could strain the relationship between the United Nations and its host country, the United States.

    President Barack Obama's Democratic administration considers the U.N. critical to the country's interests, while Republicans traditionally have been disenchanted with the world body over America's inability to reliably win support for its positions. It doesn't help that U.N. members often criticize American policies, especially as they relate to Israel and the Palestinians.

    That was reinforced last month when the U.N. cultural agency voted to approve a Palestinian bid for full membership in that body, and the U.S. responded by cutting off funding.

    Yet history shows that any American president, Republican or Democrat, ultimately learns to get along with the United Nations "simply because there's a lot of stuff the U.N. does that is useful to the United States," said David Bosco, who writes The Multilateralist blog for Foreign Policy magazine.

    Case in point: Even the harshest American critics were silent earlier this month when the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog concluded that Iran was probably developing nuclear arms.

    Bosco, also an assistant professor at American University's School of International Service, noted that the Republican administration of George W. Bush supported a major expansion in U.N. peacekeeping — despite regular sniping about the world body.

    But the relationship wasn't a smooth one: Tensions ran high between the U.S. and the world body under the younger Bush, especially when John Bolton served as the outspoken U.S. ambassador to the U.N.

    U.N. officials have declined to comment on the possibility that a Republican win could strain the United Nations' relationship with the U.S.

    "The United States is an important state at the United Nations and we would expect that relationship would continue under any administration," said Martin Nesirky, spokesman for U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.

    The presidential race has been dominated by the economy and other domestic issues, but foreign affairs are taking on greater importance and will be the subject of a debate by the Republican candidates Tuesday, giving them another chance to air their views on the U.N.

    Cain says he has read and admires Bolton's foreign policy views, which are highly critical of the United Nations. But the former ambassador to the U.N. said Friday he has not endorsed any of the candidates.

    One of the loudest U.N. critics among the candidates is Perry, the Texas governor who has recently slipped in the polls. "I think it's time for us to have a very serious discussion about defunding the United Nations," he declared in October.

    Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, in 2007 characterized U.N. failures as "simply astonishing" but has been more measured during the current campaign.

    U.N. supporters say that when the candidates bash the world organization, they are simply playing to the most conservative Republicans: the primary voters and caucus-goers needed early in the electoral contest.

    "My sense is that if any of them were to be elected president, they would quickly realize that the U.N. serves American interests," said Peter Yeo, vice president for public policy of the U.N. Foundation, a nonprofit organization that supports the world body's work.

    "They would find a way to constructively work within the U.N. system," Yeo added.

    Detractors say that the candidates are just being truthful.

    "I wouldn't call it U.N. bashing; I'd call it U.N. realism," said Bolton, the former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. "I think the issue for the United States is what to do to make the U.N. more effective, and the answer to that has to lie in how it is funded."

    Contributions to the U.N.'s regular budget are assessed on a scale based primarily on a country's ability to pay. Additional contributions to U.N. entities such as the children's agency UNICEF are voluntary.

    The U.S. assessment is the highest — 22 percent of the total U.N. operating budget. By comparison, China pays 3 percent.

    In the 2010 budget year, the U.S. provided $7.7 billion to the U.N. for its regular budget, peacekeeping and other programs, up from $6.1 billion the previous year.

    House Republicans recently introduced legislation to force the U.N. to adopt a voluntary funding system. The administration opposes it and it is unlikely to become law.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...bzyQZw?docId=2ac34f5c3d9c45339f5530307e8008cc
     
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