Rtwingafraud, is the left wing also a fraud?

Well, here it is. The question is: "Why does the left support the "official" 9/11 story, if it's all a right wing conspiracy?" Are they in on it? Are they too dumb to know the difference?

This thread is intended to be a discussion of why the left goes along with the Bush administration's narrative, and is based on the belief that there was indeed government complicity on 9/11. The thread is directed at Rtwingafraud. However, others can weigh in AS LONG AS THEY STAY ON TOPIC. If people want to debate that there was no complicity, this is not the appropriate thread to do that.

 

Frankly, I don't understand how you surmise that the left supports the "official" BS story, any more than the right, and further, I'd submit that the right advocates the BS story, way more than the left does.

Could the left be "too dumb to know the difference"? That's possible. When it comes to 9/11, most people are largely unaware of the details, either by choice, or by sheer ignorance. The right wing advocates (largely) that 9/11 is exactly as it was presented, because their man was at the helm during the fiasco. Also, if anybody STILL goes along with the "official" BS story, it's because
they simply haven't taken the time to check it out for themselves (or maybe they just don't want to look). Either way, I fail to see how the left is any less, or more, uninformed on the subject. People are too busy working and trying to survive, without much time to ascertain the details of 9/11. I can't see how it gravitates towards one party, or another (other than the standard party allegiance).

 

Ah, I suppose I need to clarify. When I say "the left", I mean the leftists in power, the politicians and such. The average idiot on the street is low info enough to buy into the story, sure, but why is it that we have a Democrat controlled government that still exploits 9/11 for things like NDAA? Why did Dems in Congress authorize, and then extend the Patriot Act? And I don't mean to say that the left supports it "more" than the right. I lay blame equally.

 

May I extend this further. Assuming for the purpose of this thread that there was some massive government involvement and/or cover up of the 9/11 attacks, why do almost all other countries in the world also go along with the official narrative (with the only exception being Iran)? The ideological enemies of the west such as Russia and China would love to expose this kind of information. In recent times, countries which have suffered at the hands of NSA spying (Germany) would perhaps also be tempted to expose any information they may possess of this massive conspiracy. Why would almost every country in the world, including the US most traditional enemies, be complicit in a global conspiracy to cover up the facts about 9/11?

 

This is already starting to veer off topic. But I will say that, for the purposes of this thread, complicity does not necessarily mean "massive government involvement and/or cover up". Complicity can be much more subtle. It can involve "looking the other way" at strategic moments. It can involve using others as a proxy so as to not get your hands dirty. Complicity can come from inaction alone.

 

If by "The left" you mean the democrats, they're really the right. Both parties take orders from the same group of rich people.
https://www.google.es/?gws_rd=cr&ei=wyR6Uo_2IISMswb15IH4CQ#q=bilderberg+group

The two party system is a fraud. It's just to make us think there's a democracy.

Some leftist anti-establishment pundits support the official story. Here's a thread I started about that.
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/3761668/1/

They obviously don't believe what they're saying. My theory is that they've been threatened.

 

You're suggesting massive complicity from both sides of the aisle.

 

Clarification noted. Well, the politicians on the left and the right are in their 'club' so to speak, both taking their perks, taking their lobbyist money, and living high on the hog so, I guess they go along to get along. Yes, I would agree with you here, that the left is no different than the right when it comes to exploiting 9/11 for their own benefit. No difference whatsoever. Both sides are scumbags for going along with it all.

 

Well, I appreciate your honesty. Too many people refuse to see the faults in one side or another. But everyone knows deep down that the "fatcats", as you would call them, have their claws in both parties.

 

I quite agree that both sides are guilty. I still think though, that the GOP led base is biggest advocate for the fattest cats. Hell, they even brag about it, and make no apologies for it.

 

Well, the GOP leadership is really the biggest advocate. The base just gets tricked into voting against their own interests because they buy into ideas like "what's good for (insert big corporation) is good for America". It's the same thing I was saying a couple posts up: the insiders know the real deal, while the idiot on the street just hears the propaganda.

 

I could never understand why, for example, poor southerners, automatically vote GOP and vote AGAINST their own best interests. The GOP has represented the richest of the rich for years. It's not like it's a new thing.

 

Two words: social conservatism.

 

Because they're all in on it! It reaches to the highest levels of the solar system! There are no "countries," just different facets of the black hats carrying out their orders! It's all connected...


Whew, glad I got that out of my system!

Hey has anyone noticed the irony of Rtwngafraud thinking the government ordered the killing of thousands of Americans, but he still wants that same government in charge of everyone's healthcare?

 

I never could understand how democrats always voted for the candidate that was for 'the common man',who also happened to be some of the richest members of congress

 

The GOP practically brags about not being for the common man. That leaves one other party to vote for.

 

They 'brag' about no such thing

Just a matter of YOUR perception...

 

Boy does your party have you hoodwinked. The so called 1% LOVE Obama, and his crony capitalist pals.

http://www.inquisitr.com/954667/president-obama-admits-the-rich-are-getting-richer-under-his-watch/

But it's really not just about his incompetence. It's his ideology in general that's to blame.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/09/party_of_the_rich_thats_the_democrats.html

The left's ideologues simply don't understand the economy at all. They don't understand how capital is generated. They don't understand how it is distributed. They don't understand how it is stimulated or inhibited. They don't really care either. They only want to feed off those that do understand it until there's nothing left. EVERY leftist economic model dies once they run out of other people's money to spend.

Or maybe they are smart enough to realize that the American economy is based on individual liberty, and individual risk, and that heavy top down regulation only restricts their own growth potential. Not only do centralized choices stifle growth, they have the potential to have disastrous outcomes when the choices are poor.

But this is really far off topic. The topic of 9/11 conspiracy is dependent on illogical fantasies that are generated in support of feelings of mistrust of authority. These delusions can exist in anyone, regardless of their political ideology.

 

What "officially" happened on 9/11, as advocated by their disinformation specialists, was the biggest example of a delusional fantasy ever told to the American people, bar none. No reason to trust anyone, and I don't, especially when they can't even keep their stories straight. Verify...not trust. Trust is earned, not assumed. Credibility and trust go together somewhat, of which "official" hacks have none of either.

 

Yet you have NO proof...

 

More than a decade....and the Nutters still have no more proof or evidence than they did when the first slid out from under their rock.

 

The information isn't hard to find, for anybody who wants to check it for themselves. We still have the "official" story, and their disinformation specialists, spouting insults and rhetoric after all these years though. Some things never change.

 

Still aligning yourself with the 'no plane' crowd?

 

We've covered this many times over, and the answer is still NO. You'll keep spouting it though, for disinformation purposes.

 

Then why do you keep linking to them?