Russia’s newest Su-30 multirole jets and Su-24 bombers practiced attack runs on NATO

Wow!!!!!!!

Before scrolling up and seeing that this was you....Axialturban....... I thought that this had to be AboveAlpha replying to a question!!!!!

As you can easily guess........ that is a serious compliment from me!!!

I am one of the people who wondered if AA could be three to five geniuses.......... working from one account for a while there!!!!!!

I tested him..... he passed with flying colors......nope.....AA is real!!!!!

 

Unless...… the fears of the top one percent of most wealthy Americans
.... can be tapped into........ and if Americans could ......… be convinced to sabotage their own national currency unit through their fears........ and paranoia........ and greed...… and obsession over a fraction of a percentage point over the next quarter.......(or over the last quarter for that matter)???!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87l4512Q4rY

Shane Warren 1 on It's Supernatural with Sid Roth - Future of America

 

Umm... even tbe pilots of PAK T 50?

It's far out classes both f22 and 35 in virtually every category cost only 10 billion to develop and only 50 million per unit.

 

Are you kidding me?

The United States has a number of SPORTS THAT RESULT IN MORE DEATHS AND INJURIES THAN THE NUMBER OF casualties in European Wars!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Perhaps ...… an influential segment of the population have forgotten all about the courage that they once possessed while competing in various sporting events?!

The economic troubles of 2008 were largely psychological in nature. Films like "An Inconvenient Truth", "The Future of Food", "The World According to Monsanto", "Food Inc" and all the Michael Moore films were causing us to doubt most of what we were doing....... or at least the way in which we were doing it....... and we were beginning to wonder if much of our methodology and technology, (especially related to energy), was obsolete?

"An Inconvenient Truth" was a powerful and basically accurate film that we all needed to think about.......... the truth can be somewhat painful.

There are a number of possible ways to insure..... to back up..... the USA Dollar..... just in case George Soros is partly tapping into an idea that has far more support worldwide than we might tend to imagine?
http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-could-utah-state-dollar-save-usa-dollar.html


Could a Utah State Dollar save the USA Dollar?

"George Soros says that America must give up the dollar and accept world currency."
http://www.examiner.com/article/geo...aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582

 

I'm no expert on the technicalities of weapons - I know something of the politics and finances of them - but it has always amused me about main battle tanks that cost around, what $10 million a unit these days (I'm thinking of the Abrams in particular), whereas their counter-measures, something like the Russian Kornet anti tank missile, costs a fraction of that.

I suppose we could extend this to the cost of a modern US aircraft carrier, to the cost of an enemy submarine and torpedo, where without checking the figures, the cost differential is simply staggering. If a torpedo takes out a carrier, it also destroys all the aircraft too.

Arms manufacturers and bankers giggle in their sleep about these curiosities.

 

So true!

This is one of the reasons why I attempted to make more people aware of flaws in our Canadian central banking policy……… that is not entirely without relevance to America!

www.BankingSystemFlaws.blogspot.ca/

 

Ah, but political parties and bankers are always thin and starving, and need mothers milk from the taxpayer to keep the big bad wolf from their door.

Even when that door is an exquisite summer home in the Hamptons and a modest 10 bedroom 'getaway' villa in St. Lucia etc.

 

I will neither confirm nor deny a four-ship of F-4E/Gs participating in a NATO exercise in Oxböl, Denmark boomed a very "prickly-looking" fishing trawler in the Baltic on or about June 1984. Even if said event happened, the trawler most likely provoked the "visit" by emitting on a variety of Warsaw Pact frequencies.

 

This latest Russian supersonic bomber looks impressive. Really. It's amazing that actually a bomber could outrun the fastest RAF fighter jet.

Russia's new supersonic bomber can outrun Britain's best fighter jet

•Russian President Putin is about to unleash a new supersonic bomber
•The Blackjack will be able to outrun the RAF's fastest fighter jets
•Last month Russian Bear aircraft were spotted on sorties near Cornwall
•But Blackjack is three times faster than the Bear and can fly four times further than the fighters that make up UK's Quick Reaction Alert squadrons
•The Russian aircraft has a range of 7,600 miles without refueling

the full article is here
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...bomber-outrun-Britain-s-best-fighter-jet.html

 

You compare apples to oranges when you compare defense spending across borders. Do you think the average Russian defense manufacturer is paying their unionized employees $30-50 an hour? The biggest cost element in the USA is the cost of labor.

 

The link does not work and the estimated range is not relevant if the aircraft is fleeing at high speed. Fast means gas guzzler....OH, and the link does not work. The aircraft was built in 1981 and only 35 were built.

 

I absolutely do not see the significance of your post to the point I made? I think you're getting hung up on a yahoo thing, drum beating for the US against Russia.

The point I was making is that the winners in war always are, and always have been, the arms manufacturers and the bankers who finance them.

But for dainty tastes, go and check out the cost of a US anti tank missile. The unit cost of the Javelin is around $80k. In other words, one Abram buys 125 Javelins. Or, put another way, 125 Javelins are capable of destroying 125 Abrams -- at a net cost of $1.25 billion.

 

It's not only the cost of labor, especially now since the Ruble has fallen, it's also the raw materials since Russia has about everything that they would need. What they don't have are all the spare parts, but its remedying the situation now so that nothing will have to be imported.

They have the high tech industry, and have been working on more efficient defense such as subs that can shoot missiles, rather than resorting to high cost air craft carriers...which in a few years will be obsolete. They are working on planes that can carry a whole army anywhere in the world in seven hours...including their new Armata tanks. They will be showcased for the first time in their Victory Day Parade in May. I gather this is why the US refuses to attend...not to mention Russia's latest jets. It's going to be some show from what I can tell.

These war toys though are not important. What is important is their electronics which can make everything obsolete...as was shown in the Black Sea, since it might make war itself obsolete. Let's hope so.

 

As I have stated....there are bound to be a few bugs that need working out when you jump from Gen #3 Fighrer/Attack Aoorcraft to Gen.5.

The VTOL version of the F-35 has the most issues but they will be fixed.

The thing that has to be understood hee is that any Nation that purchases the F-35 will be fully integrated with a large number of U.S. AIRCRAFT MISSILE CARRIERS whether they be B-1R's carrying huge number of Air to Air Missiles that have HYPERSONIC VELOCITY CAPABILITIES....which means if you are an Aussie F-35 and have finished shooting all mu missiles and have used up your Canon Fire and you and 11 other Aussie F-35's have done the same....and because of the F-35's Stealth Charachteristics all the enemy aircraft you have fired on are long dead and out of the sky but you are out of Anti-Ship Missles and out of Air to Air Missiles so as an F-35.....what capability do YOU HAVE that no other ENEMY JET IN THE WORLD HAS???

Well...yeah...they can't detect where you are so your SURVIVABILITY IS OFF THE CHART....but.....what makes an F-35 so special?

ANSWER.....YOU CAN FIRE ANTI-SHIP, ANTI-AIRCRAFT, ANTI-GROUND TARGET MISSLES FROM OTHER MISSILE CARRYING AIRCRAFT!!!!

The F-35 Program....as is with all U.S. Military Programs these days....it to allow the Aircraft, Tank, Ship, Bomber, Artillery, Subs....etc.....NOT ONLY CAPABLE OF DEFENDING OR ATTACKING TARGETS BY ITSELF.....but as well.....TO BE USED WITHIN AN INTEGRATED SERVICE MANNER THAT ALLOWS THESE WEAPON SYSTEMS TO BE ALL NETWORKED WITH QUANTUM COMPUTER SYSTEMS.....as right now they are being replaced by the Quantum Systems from the older IMB NEWTWORKED SUPER COMPUTER SYSTEMS.

YOU.....as an F-35 Pilot....cannot be detected to any point to be fired at by ENEMY AIRCRAFT OR ENEMY GROUND TO AIR MISSILES!!!

YOU....as an F-35 Pilot....can use PASSIVE DETECTION COMPUTER SYSTEMS....to track and close within ENEMY AIRCRAFT to the point you could be 100 METERS BEHIND THE ENEMY AIRCRAFT AND IT WOULD NEVER KNOW YOUR THERE!!!

YOU...as an F-35 Pilot OF ANY NATION THAT IS ALLIED WITH THE UNITED STATES.....will be able to launch ANTI-SHIP AND ANTI-AIRCRAFT AND ANTI-SUBMARINE MISSILES AND BOMBS FROM A MULTITUDE OF NEW GENERATION MISSILE AND BOMB CARRIERS!!!

AboveAlpha

 

That is like saying a torpedo could sink a WWII battleship and make the same cost to effect comparison but when in actual war conditions the theory fell apart.

 

Tank looks neat but they have only built 20 and no tank can do what they are claiming this does well...too many announced capabilities for them to work well. I expect to see major compromises...still, if they were to produce a tank doing tank stuff alone, it would be formidable.

 

Thing is once the U.S. Integrated Service Battle Plan has achieved AIR SUPREMACY.....tanks become WORTHLESS....as once the U.S. achieves Air Supremacy.....we simply just keep destroying all enemy Mechanized Divisions whether by A-10's....Apache Longbow Choppers, F-15's, F-16, F-18,...etc....B-2's...B-1B's and B-52's carrying the NEW U.S. Independently rocketed Cluster Munitions which do not break the Cluster Ban Treaty....which the U.S. never signed anyways....as they are rendered INERT if they don't explode.

Basically 25 to 30 B-52's flying at altitudes ABOVE THE CAPABILITY OF SURFACE TO AIR MISSILES CAN HIT THEM.....drop TONS UPON TONS of these Anti-Mechanized Force Cluster Munitions.....which when dropped have a tiny Rocket Motor than directs them to target.

30 B-52's flying at great altitude are CAPABLE OF COMPLETELY DESTROYING WITH SUCH MUNITIONS ALMOST THE ENTIRE ARMY AND ALL MULTIPLE MECHANIZED DIVISIONS THAT AE ENTAILED!!

Understand...the U.S. Military exists at between 50 to 150 years in Technological Advancement than any other Nations Military.

AboveAlpha

 

There is a story that the USS Theodore Roosevelt was militarily disabled by a Russian Submarine, and is sitting off the coast of Britain, sort of like that US ship that was disabled in the Black Sea a while back.
Seems to me, they shouldn't do such stuff because the US then invents a counter measure.

 

Yes, you're quite right. It is exactly like saying a torpedo could sink a WWII battleship:

HMS Royal Oak (Battleship) sunk by a german torpedo in Scapa Flow with a loss of 900 men. The Japanese ship Yamoto, the largest Battleship ever built with a displacement of 72,800 tonnes - sunk by torpedos dropped from US aircraft. Or the pride of the Royal Navy, HMS Hood, blown to smithereens when German navy shells penetrated her aft magazine.

And so forth.

 

With a displacement of 100,000 tonnes, it's too big to berth at the naval harbour at Portsmouth, and is anchored off Gosport.