Russia is not a first strike Nuclear threat to anyone.

I've seen analysis. Probably about two thirds give or take.

 

You've given me new information I didn't have. What's new is the inside information on the Russian army being so reluctant to support Putins position. Few things could be more detrimental that having your own troops balk at your commands; turn you down. I tend to believe that the problem is not so much Russia as it is Putin individually, and thus if there were an assassination or coup, this might end- with one exception. Frequently with that kind of change, the person who inherits (or seizes) the power is often as bad as the one it was taken from. Not necessarily in the same way, but equally lacking in character. Russia has had a chain of dictatorial leadership for a long time.

Today's Putin is quite different than that of 10 years back. I get the impression that a kind of paranoia has set in; seeing enemies everywhere- including in his own regime. That will actually generate enemies, kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

And you can't even answer the most simple question?
What is first strike capability?
Sorry, I don't believe you.

Oh, asking you to tell me what first strike capability is, is now a personality thing?
Sounds more like your running for obvious reasons

I was a high school to flight school 1976, US Army Warrant Officer, helicopter pilot. 2nd Battalion 1st Aviation brigade and spent my entire life prior around Missile command personnel, B-52/KC-135 crews, and watched the first moon landing from my dads bunker. I had the privilege of meeting Gen, Curtis LeMay when he promoted my Dad to Lt. Colonel in an honorary presentation with 9 other officers,

The ONLY person making this personal is you, using it as an excuse to run from a very simple question you're afraid to answer.
And the reason you're afraid to answer is because is shoots down just about everything you posted if you even know the answer.
I have NEVER even HEARD of ANY military member refuse to answer a question like that. EVER

So you can either answer the question (Which isn't personal) or you can continue to fudge your way out of it.

What is first strike capability?

GUARANTEED you have no clue.

 

First of all. All I would have to do is look it up whether I know it or not. So answering it is a useless exercise.

The big question is not whether Russia has a first strike capability. The big question is whether they think they have a first strike capability. I believe Putin thinks they do. Whether they wipe out our nuclear response capability is not even relevant because it will create a world that none of us want to live in.

With all this real world experience, why would you talk about McCoy at all since it would not add to your knowledge base at all?

By the way. Curtis Lemay would have been retired by the time he promoted your dad to Lt Col.

 

I see the same thing. But I think a new leader (for a while anyway) would start by reversing Putins idiocy just to gander support from troops, civilians, and command. After that, its anyones guess.
I also think if Putin gives the command to launch, that will be the final straw. Another point, Putin doesn't have a traveling battalion of Gestapo to threaten his military leaders and troops keeping them in line. The failure in the ranks by the thousands is evident they only fear Putin. And I see his ability to command dwindling rapidly. Thats obvious.

So I am not concerned Putin will somehow convince leadership to launch against anyone. And I am counting the days until news of his disappearance is known. Its going to take more than attacking Ukraine but the utter catastrophe of this military blinder is mounting more and more anger with Putin. I think its now just a matter of time.
I guess we will have to wait and see.

 

The last I heard, you have to be at least 18 to enter warrant officer flight training school. That means you were born in 1958. Your Dad graduated from the Air Force Academy in 1959. Academy cadets are not allowed to be married or have dependents.

 

Which you finally did look it up, found out what it really means, which is why you don't want to answer the question.
And you know how everyone knows that? Because for two days you made claims proving you didn't know what it means.

All verifying you had no clue what first strike capability meant. Now you have egg on your face because you finally looked it up, which is why you keep running from the question.

Remember when you posted this

Meaning, you thought it meant the first to strike.

So if you are going tp now pivot to, you knew all along what first strike capable meant, then you would have to admit you had no clue the US could clear her silos in 10 minutes long before any Russian ICBM could hit US soil. And there isn't enough Russian subs on the planet that could stop the US from launching over 90% of our missiles.

Either way, all you have done is prove you have no clue what you talking about and your willingness to just lie about it after getting caught.
You have even been caught claiming you didn't say something until I quote your former post showing you did.
So you're ongoing credibility in this thread is worthless

Not to mention how you run away every time you get caught in another fake claim that I have posted several times.
Honest posters will respond to honest questions. Only the fake posters run.

Oh just maybe because a huge portion of the people there either came from missile command or were involved in nuclear weapon delivery.
Or maybe because they were instrumental in the Cuban missile crisis response
Or maybe because it was a U2 launch and recovery area
Or maybe because McCoy hosted the KC-135Q refueling SR-71s going into Russia which my father was a part of that team
Or maybe because most on location had some kind of nuclear weapon training be it loading, launching, or bomber delivery
Or maybe because everyone there was on alert status and had a very good working knowledge of Russian forces

Just wow. He retired in 65.

 

Which means your Dad got promoted to Lt Col by Curtis Lemay with only six years in service. Lemay might have pinned the rank on your Dad after retirement, but he would have had nothing to do with him being promoted.

I have heard enough. You have nothing to offer.

Adios.

 

From my own memories, the first I remember the potential of a Soviet "first strike" capability first surfaced regarding negotiations for the SALT II nuclear arms treaty in the late 1970s. Many were u pset that the treaty allowed the Soviets to deploy up to 308 or 330 in some versions of the largest ICBM ever built. The so called "Satan" SS-18.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-36_(missile)#R-36M (SS-1_variants:

The SS-18 could carry up to 10 warheads over 500 kilotons each which meant that the 300 plus SS-18s could be launched with 3,000 warheads aboard, meaning that at two warheads per American ICBM silo (1,052) the SS-18 force alone had the theoretical ability to destroy all American ICBMs in their silos with plenty left over to destroy most American bomber bases and submarine ports as well as command and control facilities even allowing for generous warhead failure rates.

 

The last you heard,
Russian has first strike capability which YOU claimed I had to be prove otherwise
Russian doesn't use liquid fueled missiles that will take at least 60 minutes to fuel before launch which YOU claimed had to be proved to you
The US doesn't have 530 Minuteman III solid rocket fueled missiles that can be launched in 10 minutes which YOU claimed had to be proved to you
We don't have the ability to detect Russia fueling their missiles before the launch which YOU claimed had to be proved to you
You thought anti aircraft batteries, helicopters and aircraft had something to do with being first strike capable
I was 2 years old at McCoy
Even if we knew Russia was fueling missiles for launch, we wouldn't do anything about it
The 4047th Strategic Wing was at McCoy during the Cubin missile crisis
You thought first strike had something to do with Overwhelming our defense
My words alone meant nothing claiming Russia wasn't first strike capable

So much for the last you heard.

I was born in 1957. I graduated HS in 1976. The application process for the ASVAB, FAST test and officer interview is 8 months long. I was in basic at Ft. Dix in March of 1978.

My father was promoted from Capt. to Lt Col in 64 as lead navigator/trainer for the tanker, Bomber Navigators, and Q mission status. He eventually took command of the Navigator staff of the 919th who won the Saunders Trophy as the best air refueling squadron of SAC.

My real dad died before I was born. My step Dad is the only father I ever knew and married my mom in 59.

 

We have all heard enough of your BS.
The 20 year air force guy who doesn't know what first strike capable means
And needs proof of missiles that are public knowledge
Needs proof Russia isn't first strike capable
Who has been caught in his own BS several times in this thread which I have pointed out time after time

Who runs from questions about his own claims. Only fakes do that.
And we have all had a belly full of your running

The only reason you're running now is because you got cornered (AGAIN) on your fake knowledge and got so much egg on your face you had to run
Yeah, we all know
You should run

Yeah, Adios is right. lol

 

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The Minuteman III can be launched within 10 minutes and there are 530 of them with 3 warheads each. Even without an early launch detection we would have plenty of time to respond before they got here.

 

I think you are forgetting that this is planet Earth, which we share with all humanity.

The idea that we can ignore slaughter when it doesn't involve slaughtering Americans is moral depravity.

 

Yep, you make an assertion, you must provide proof that it's correct. Do you think we're going to just take your word for it?

 

Yet Biden is doing that exact thing as we speak
Go figure

 

I think you need to do a better job of finding the news.

Biden isn't going to war against Russia.

But, he IS taking part in creating world wide sanctions against Russia, especially its economy. And, he has contributed significant arms to Ukraine.

Where did you get the idea that Biden is doing nothing???

 

Please don’t talk about submarines. They might start looking.
I just see Putin rattling the saber, knowing full well Biden will cower. It’s a low risk threat.
BTW, how can you be sure Russia is still liquid filled, especially at sea?

 

What would you like the US to do that we aren't doing today?

 

Anti ship mines to protect Odessa and the area.

 

Subs don't use liquid fueled missiles. They are solid rocket fueled.
Russia uses Liquid fueled ICBMs because they can carry more warheads.
More thrust to weight ratio

 

My understanding is that laying such mines would be an act of war.

I don't see Republicans, Democrats or our president interested in going to war with Russia - thank God.