Russia says ISIS defeated in Syria.....Really?

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  1. Baff

    Baff Well-Known Member

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    Yeah and before Trump this has been attributed to everyone else and his dog.
    Yawn.

    Same old tired bollocks, rehashed.

    Bush, Trump, China, Russia. The Illuminati. Name your bad guy.
    All jealously machinating to get their hands on Afghanistan's imaginary riches.
    Only there aren't any.

    All a load of bollocks. Based on the same flawed premise that only an idiot would swallow.

    Is this really the first time you have encountered this story?
     
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  2. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Illuminati? Are you kidding me?

    KSA is now mining gold, bauxite, uranium, copper....... I think the time will come when Afghanistan will be productive .. as markets develop.

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  3. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the CIA was not involved, they would not be doing their job, for this is their job. What is hard to believe is that people can be so uninformed and naive when it comes to our CIA. For there are plenty of books out there, written by credible experts who deal in facts, with some of them being retired intel people, who discovered that the CIA has done some questionable actions and even have operated above our constitution. And they have revealed to those who took the time to read and educate themselves what some of the key roles of the CIA has been historically It isn't the analysis sector of the CIA that is the problem, it is the operations sector. Just reading about the Dulles Brothers would get rid of these naive impression of the CIA.

    That the CIA works in the interests of very rich elites and their businesses, has been true since the inception of its operations division. And quite a bit of this is public record now, since it happened long ago. The interests of these elites, which the CIA works towards, are called american interests, just like taking away our rights, was done by the term, Patriot Act. lol An old and classic case involved a south american nation and the United Fruit Company. When Gen. Butler, wrote War is a Racket, the CIA did not exist, but it is now a part of this racket. If the fact that the CIA financed a secret operation by bringing drugs into america and having them sold in our inner cities, which fueled the crack coke epidemic does not reveal what the CIA is, and make one understand what we are dealing with here, then being naive is like terminal cancer, brain cancer. Today, they still operate in this criminal like manner, and are involved with banking schemes in order to get the money congress will not give them. As congress turns a blind eye. And yet some people here go after putin and russia? lol When your own gov't is a cess pool?

    You can bet your arse and keep it, that our CIA was involved in what has gone on in the middle east and in ways you nor I will never know. In american interests of course. Except not in our interests. The CIA should be destroyed, all but its analysis sector, and made over, to subject it to the constitution, and to end its support of our banking cabal and MNCs, looking out for those special interests and their bottom line. We should not have economic hit man, nor the jackals used by the CIA. This is what is seen in an oligarchy, a corporate state, and has no place in a republic.
     
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    Margot2 Banned

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    You know any CIA people? I grew up around them every day. They were all veterans, patriots and well educated.. Engineers, cartographers, linguists etc...
     
  5. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not this sh*t again. So, they shared classified info with you too?

    You really should extend your education outside of people you might have met, who were in the CIA. But, yes, I knew a few long ago who were involved in operations in the same nation I was fighting in. But I would never allow my like or dislike for the individual dictate what the reality of the CIA is. So, does it take a liberal to depend upon emotions rather than knowledge based upon facts in order to understand something?

    SO, the higher ups in the CIA who were involved in bringing in coke to fuel the crack epidemic, in order to finance what congress would not finance, just how great is your respect for these good men and patriots? One gets the idea, that if you had even just met them, you would defend what they did. And any other opinion of the CIA, backed up with historical facts just have no place in your own intellect? For this is what you are intimating here in these absurd statements. "Hey, I knew a CIA analyst once, and this qualifies me to reject what historical facts about the CIA reveals" Really? That you make yourself look not only naive, but highly uninformed is problematic, for a serious discussion. But hey, I know of people who will claim to be highly informed, of police work, because they watched a police drama. Or think they know something about the justice system because they watched Perry Mason, or Matlock. And now I know of one person, who never having spent on minute researching the CIA, knows more than I do, who has researched them, simply because she says she once knew someone who worked for the CIA. Cannot you see how silly this is? You might have a comedy career ahead of you and may have missed your calling. I am sure you had a few here laughing at your remarks. Which is not bad really for in this world, we need to be able to laugh at something. And being naive is funny sometimes.
     
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    Margot2 Banned

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    They were neighbors. We fished and camped with them.

    Show me your proof that the CIA was behind the Arab Spring.
     
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    The USSR did.

    A few posts before you told about
    With such a speed of decreasing value in a week you would ask me to bring my own spoons and forks to Afghanistan to double their mineral deposits... :)))
     
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    American journos aren't weeping, moaning, and wringing hands in the news media about Syria much anymore after about six years of that. To stop it there would have to have been a draft and the US intervene with massive force with a lot of American blood shed -- so it's been quiet on the newsdesk front.

    But imo Russia accomplished their goal to keep Assad in power. Assad can do whatever he wants with total impunity again.
     
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    The proof will come out in the future, when it no longer matters. The CIA does not operate in secrecy for naught. If they had not made use of the opportunity, they would not be doing their job. There is a difference here, between creating the arab spring, and using it. Yes, the CIA is smarter than you give them credit for being. I never said they created it, just that it gave them opportunities which they would exploit.

    Just because you went fishing with CIA people, in no way qualifies you to know a thing about this agency. You have to learn about them by reading books which informs you. And paying attention to what they have done, or wanted to do in the past. The CIA is filled with good people, no doubt, but what they have done is many times wrong. Like drug trafficking to finance projects congress would not finance, which shows you what they are capable of. And this should never be ignored, and it should show you how they can operate. Which should destroy any naive image you have of them, as truth should always do. The power that they have is dangerous to any republic. What they have done in the past is indicative of what they can do in the future.
     
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    How did the US benefit from the Arab Spring? Or, was it just a lark?
     
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    It carries supports what PNAC laid out. To take down particular nations in the middle east. Anything that helps that agenda will of course be exploited. There are still some north african nations left on this list as well as Iran. So, when you watch PNAC carried forward there will be no need to appear so naive. And yet, I have little doubt that you will. Since PNAC addressed the 21st century we have plenty of time left for this scheme to be carried forward. Unless of course we move away from it, which so far, there is no sign of, although trump campaigned on taking a different path, and yet he has the PNAC hard on for Iran. Obviously syria and assad is still on our hit list. We will just have to find other ways to fulfil the PNAC scheme in regards to syria Russia threw some gravel in the gears, but it ain't over til the fat lady sings. So there is still hope for your wants and wishes.
     

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