Russia stands by Le Pen

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  1. Ninian

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    Flooding your posts with links to an unrelated subject - and anything but Le Pen and potential support to her - that, by the way, I effectively already proven nonexistant by simply pointing at fact that a Twitter post of one of 450 members of state Duma is not a valid way to express any sort of official state position - is an off-topic. As a regular thread creator you should be aware of the forum rules and recomendations.
     
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  2. litwin

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    "Well, that is a curious and debatable topic, to be honest. Could have a very interesting discussion around it," not the fact that Kremlin thugs and you support European white trash (fascists, Nazis) here ? and in the same time, call any of your opponent for a Nazi or Fascist ? meanwhile i personally, attack any fascist party, or organization
     
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    "posts with links to an unrelated subject - and anything but Le Pen" you must be joking , go and open it, in each of them info about your 5th column le pen. and then name a deference between la pen and any other euro- fascist party which you guys support ?

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    It's your civil right to attack fascists, democrats, socialists and monarchists - any sort of political group - and they can attack you in return. As long as this will not be involving bias articles about my country or my nation I, for the most part, would not care. I am pretty much sure other people can stand for things related to them, as I stand for things related to me.

    If you seek to have conversation about fascist organizations of european countries - do this in a proper thread. The current thread is about Marine Le Pen and a twitter post of Konstantine Kosachev.
     
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    "The current thread is about Marine Le Pen and a twitter post of Konstantine Kosachev." no, its about Muscovite support of the French fascist party, this bum Kosachev, is just a small fish , no one cares about him.
     
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    If you wish to create the thread about "Muscovite support of the French fascist party" - do it in the proper section of forum. This is the "Latest news" section, people there discuss the news. For opinions and/or conspiracy theories - exists http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?forums/political-opinions-beliefs.10/ and http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?forums/conspiracy-theories.63/
     
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    you are just trolling, i know that you don't like this connection, Putler - fascists, but its just a fact, want you or dont want talk about it. just a fact

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    You do know the Soviet Union failed in their 'internationalist' endeavors? As Vladimir Putin said; 'Washington's ideologues will fail in theirs too'.

    Now a bit from me on the belief that the end justifies the means, which somehow is always being used by ideologues to excuse their atrocities. The problem as far as I can see is 'arrogance', in that these ideologues see themselves as being the ones worthy of deciding what is the best for mankind.

    My question to you is; how can ideologues like Soros and others, who have no concern how many people die for their 'idealistic' one world government, be the ones to morally make the decision on what is best for mankind? Are they any different then from other ideologues that killed millions such as Adolph Hitler with his thousand year Reich, or the Bolsheviks with their Soviet workers paradise?

    This doesn't mean I believe in defined national boundaries, something which was contrived by Western Europe in the 19th century and has led to wars and has caused misery to millions through population exchange. Nationalism in itself is self exaltation and gratification and is therefore a sin in Christianity. Every language/culture is unique and does have certain gifts to offer to mankind.

    These gifts should be respected, admired, copied and utilized without the belief that one is superior to another just because they conform to standards that were established by a certain group. As an example the Anglosphere, with its liberal ideals, or Germany with its technical achievements.

    You can't blur people that way into a mass and have them lose their individuality and sense of identity, because then they become nothing more than robots and slaves.
     
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    No, I am pointing to you at how forum works. As for theoretical connections - create a thread for discussing them, properly.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?forums/political-opinions-beliefs.10/

    Do not carry out off-top conversations in the thread, please.
     
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    The Soviet Union tried to use force to impose world domination.
    The EU is a voluntary union.
    The rest of your post was babble and nonsensical. Individual statements in it were valid, like individuality - but in an insane context, as if the EU stifles individuality.
    Soros responsible for people's deaths? By what warped logic???
    Forget that question - I don't even want to hear it. I can go to a street corner in NYC and listen to someone warning that the end is near and I better repent if I were interested in delusional rants, and I am not.
     
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    "discussing them, properly."
    have you seen my topic- questions? "Putler provides support for European fascists"


     
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    "if you want to discuss the theory of support of Putin to fascist parties - then do not create thread in 'Latest news' section of forum." why if one of your fascist - protege could become the next French president. are you happy with this? and where is all your ANTI- FASCISM HAS GONE?
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    Crimea annexation inspires European far-right"
     
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    When a company is nationalized, it goes to the state and the profits go to the people. Now all those criminal oligarchs who made their money with the American installed Yeltsin, and who refused to pay taxes and were kicked out by Vladimir Putin, came here to be embraced by our own criminal government... and they in turn encouraged them with their lies and propaganda.

    They thought the Russian people were stupid enough to forget the past and what America did to them, so they could rob Russia once again. Big mistake!




    Evil is as evil does. [​IMG]
     
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    Are you talking about the time when an independent Crimea was invaded and annexed by Ukraine in 1992 without holding a referendum?

    Crimea and its people are all safe now, they're part of the Russian Federation, so I wouldn't worry about them.
     
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    " independent Crimea was invaded and annexed by Ukraine in 1992" your UFO.ru world
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    the reality :

    "United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262 was adopted on March 27, 2014 by the sixty-eighth session of the United Nations General Assembly in response to the Russian annexation of Crimea and entitled "Territorial integrity of Ukraine". .... which was supported by 100 United Nations member states, affirmed the General Assembly's commitment to the territorial integrity of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders and underscored the invalidity of the 2014 Crimean referendum."
     
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    Oh really, then why are the corrupt bureaucrats calling to punish Britain to discourage others from leaving the EU if it is so voluntary? How about asking the people living there and who have no jobs how they feel about their voluntary union.

    As for world domination, then why is Washington pushing for its hegemonic world government and why do we continue to destroy nations that refuse to bow to us?

    As for my beliefs, I'm sorry I didn't realize they were so far above you. I tend to over estimate people. I'll try not to do it the next time.
     
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    I didn't know supporting a candidate that is expected to have pro stances towards the supporting party was enough to be labeled as having a "fascist" tendency. Whats wrong with Russia wanting the candidate who is closer to its interests litwo?
     
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    I think you are delusional if you believe what you post.

    "American installed Yeltsin" - :confused: :shock: o_O

    Bonkers.
    Insane.
    Crazy.
     
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    The fact that Britain can make their foolish decision is proof it is voluntary.

    Above as in higher than a kite as in drugs ?- ABSOLUTELY.
     
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    I penned an entire piece on what I think the financial and political future should be. Part of the reason for North Korea's struggles is that all of their money is going towards military, rather than towards infrastructure and other goods. And I never voted for Trump, the revolution far precedes him. As far as I'm concerned, that fraud STOLE it.

    Education doesn't need funds, it needs a systematic overhaul. Think: Why do the vast majority of our successful citizens come from the likes of Harvard, etc? If it were up to me, I'd vastly increase the number of campuses of these highly graded schools, leaving the old and rotten schools to dry out and I'd focus our curriculum on a child's skillset, to enable their ultimate potential and realization, instead of the one-size fits all cookie cutter that's helped no one and has our current generation as walking dummies. Competent enough to function in the world, but without a mastered skillset.

    And DeVoss isn't an imbecile just because you don't like her(and she agrees). We've had a vast support for the Public Schools and the Teachers Union, and what they do is steal American taxpayer dollars and provide a disservice to our kids.

    By the time I'm done, this hierarchy(which you, the supposed party of the people support) will no longer exist. IMO, there already is a winner in the battle between private and public, and private has owned Public education hard.
     
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    So the answer is give tax dollars to for-profit Bible-beaters?
    Look at how she ruined schools in her home state.
     
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    Politicians need a scary enemy if the peasants are to submit without question.
    Odd that the biggest self proclaimed free thinkers are the biggest advocates of this age old nonsense
     
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    No, as I said, the answer is to give tax dollars to institutions that have proven capable of results.

    https://www.exeter.edu and other campuses like this which provide recreational and learning opportunities and actually grooms their students to succeed in the 21st century. I've had the experience of all 3: Public, private and university. And I learned more in private/university than Public.

    If we specialize a child's learning and curtail it to their best skillsets, we will get the best results. Education should not only be in learning, but in training to be an adult. In this, public education fails. And in this, public education doesn't even try to uphold its own values. You'll be amazed what it feels like to be a kid going to a prestigious school.

    For me, there should be nothing but prestigious schools, not bible thumpers.
     

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