Russia Warns U.S. Over Syria, Says Obama Like Bush

It is understandable Russia has propaganda in favor of anti war American's, as they don't want American troops in their backyard.

They make a good point as well, many American's don't want another war on both sides so this is going to be harder to sell than Iraq, as that had 9/11 as a good excuse.

Though the isolationists on the Republican side, and the pacifists on the Democrat side, may not be enough, as this war appears imminent.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2013/08/25/russia-warns-u-s-over-syria-says-obama-like-bush/

 

If Obama gets us involved he should be impeached.

 

I wouldn't go that far, as I voted for the President and support most of his other policies pertaining to economics, and the redistribution of wealth.

Also President Bush was never impeached for Iraq, so this is not a legitimate course of action.

 

Bush had the vote of both houses of congress to do what he did. Second, Bush never cold bloodily murdered American citizens with drones.

 

We need Syrian Oil, why is okay for Bush to take Iraq oil and not for Obama to take Syrian oil?

 

Why would Bush have been impeached for starting a war Congress voted for?

 

Impeached for what?

He wasn't impeached for Libya because Americans brought up to believe that the commander-in-chief has no authority to take action without Congressional approval fail to understand that there are legal loopholes big enough to fly cruise missiles through.

 

He really needs to go to congress on this one. He shouldn't have any issues getting their support if he can make the chemical weapons case. If he goes it alone, the man truly has no regard for the American people.

 

lol @ Russia warning the U.S.! That's like me warning the UFC heavyweight champion that it's on when I see him.

 

No congress man will vote for war, there's Democrats and Republicans against war, chemical weapons or not.

This has to be done through executive action, and President Obama is the Decider, and if he feels this is in our national security interests then we must trust him.

 

The jury is still out on how he murdered Americans as far as I'm concerned. Don't cheerlead for anything that idiot did. He was a complete embarrassment as a president.

 

I wouldn't be so sure, Russia has not been grinding itself down for over a decade putting out everyone elses fires.

 

We can't afford to prove a point, this country is broke!

 

Bush TOOK Iraqi oil? How'd he manage that and how much did he take?

 

and you wanna start another illegal war because obama can?

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Im still waiting for all that free gas we traded blood for !!!

When does obama start handing out our free gas?

 

Syria in not in our national security interest, It is part of Russias national security interest though...

 

Quote me where I said or implied that.

Hilarious that all the PF righties are suddenly pacifists though.

 

Yeah, other than a total lack of balls, any understanding whatsoever of real world circumstances and consequences, knowing our enemies from our allies, opposing our enemies and supporting our allies, the complete inability to act decisively,and being married to a woman that was never proud of America until her husband was elected, I guess he IS "like Bush".

About as much as the Hollywood Liespeak Film "The Butler" is like the REAL person it claims to depict....

 

Yeah, we're pacifist cause we know what war is really like. when do you join up to lead the charge of the light in the loafers brigade...

Youre already making excuses for another war, like idiots believe its obamas turn to kill people.

 

Where is this myhtical "Iraqi Oil" that was "taken" by Bush. Seems to me the IRAQIS still have it.

 

Yeah, When is obama gonna start distributing all the free gas we traded all that blood for?

 

Of course it's a legitimate course of action!!! Obama can be impeached for treason and should be.

Just because we never hold our presidents accountible for their crimes, and haven't in the past, does not mean it's innappropriate to do so. We need to change this atmosphere of impunity and zero accountibility, and that is the most appropriate possible course.

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Regarding the topic, Russia is one hundred percent right. The USA have been getting their asses kicked rhetorically by Putin and Lavrov.

USA, UK, and France are accusing Assad without ANY proof. Russia said the opposite, you shouldn't jump to conclusions, especially when talking about strikes.

Plus the strikes will make a peaceful reconciliation harder.

The second Geneva attempt is being given the finger, possibly by military strikes (or at the very least, muscle flexing ongoing right now).. JUST LIKE the peaceful negotiations were suppressed because they didn't follow the "Assad must go" doctrine. That's why the SC resolution was vetoed. The USA have undermined any attempts at peaceful reconciliation that did not require Assad stepping down. That's all they care about. Now with Geneva 2, the same as how, even though the Annan peace plan showed potential prospect (although tenuous) to solve things, it was the USA who voted to refuse the extension of that mandate. Can anyone tell me a good reason why the Annan peace plan shouldn't have continued?

Russia just say that peace should come first, THAT is the paramount goal. And they're right. They're not always right, they're not right about their gay law, but they are right in this instance and have been consistent since the start of hostilities in Syria.

Call me the commy comrade, call me a red, call me a Ruskie, a traitor, an America-hater etc.. IDC, the fact is I can see the facts.

 

We're getting cheaper oil from Iraq today than when Saddam was selling it to us.

It's going to be the same with Syria after we take it over, we're both on the same side, conservatives want lower prices to fill up their Ford pick up trucks before they go hunting, and liberals want lower gas prices to fill up their Escalades before they go to the welfare office.

America is built around oil consumption, the sooner we realize that, the sooner these wars will start making sense.

 

Obama is a Democrat- therefore, this will be a good war even if it leads to WWIII and nuclear war.

 

So...your support for Obama's actions have boiled down to the timid point that "there are big loopholes".

I see. Nice immoral defense.

This from the same sort of crappy liberal which was busting Bush and calling for impeachment for a second incursion into Iraq due to violation of Saddam's terms of ceasefire: a totally Constitutional and legitimate continuation of Desert Storm, which was Congressionally authorized.

Don't bother to weakly claim that you didn't object to Bush re-entering Iraq. I completely expect such an attempt from a rudderless liberal.

But now...there are "big loopholes". Without even explaining to us in definitive detail what those "big loopholes" actually are.

Pile of feces.

Shouldn't this be about what is right and what is wrong, instead of what has become allowable simply due to stupidity or sabotage of our checks and balances?

Yes it should. But not to liberals, because "things change", and it doesn't really matter if they have changed for the better, because their moral compasses are whirlygigs.