Russia will target US jets in parts of Syria, defence ministry says

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    Russia says it will treat US-led coalition planes in Syria, west of the Euphrates, as targets.

    The escalation comes after the US shot down a Syrian jet that had been dropping bombs near US-backed fighter jets.

    In a statement, the defence ministry said that starting today it will track all jets and drones from the coalition in the area.

    And it has demanded a full account of why the US military shot down a Syrian SU-22 on Sunday.

    A statement from US Central Command said that the plane was shot down because it dropped bombs on US-backed rebels from the Syrian Democratic Front, near Tabqa in north Syria.

    The US statement said that coalition aircraft stopped a "pro-regime advance" toward an "SDF-controlled town".

    "Following the Pro-Syrian forces attack, the coalition contacted its Russian counterparts by telephone via an established 'de-confliction line' to de-escalate the situation.

    "At 6.43pm, a Syrian regime SU-22 dropped bombs near SDF fighters south of Tabqa and, in accordance with rules of engagement and in collective self-defence of coalition partnered forces, was immediately shot down by a US F/A-18E Super Hornet.

    "The coalition's mission is to defeat ISIS in Iraq and Syria."

    Syria said earlier that the US-led Coalition had shot down one of its planes as it carried out a combat mission against Islamic State fighters.

    Moscow said the US had failed to use the communication hotline to warn them about the downing of the plane.

    "The command of the coalition forces did not use the established communication channel for preventing incidents in Syrian airspace," the defence ministry said.

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    Source: http://news.sky.com/story/russia-wi...parts-of-syria-defence-ministry-says-10920332


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    Thanks Trump, now you're about to make many American moms suffer from losing their sons in Syria just because you surrendered to the deep state agendas, working for Israeli puppet state in Syria called Kurdistan. Just man the feck up and stand against this craziness dude. That's what American voters elected you for but you don't seem you're answering their needs. Shame on you Orange head !
     
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    Sure, and rest assured russian "assets", will be targeted in kind.
     
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    Maybe it's time to just get it on. Russia is pissing the entire world off, left and right. If they attack the US, that would invoke article 5 of NATO. They would have to fight against the most powerful alliance in history. Good luck with that. If I were Trump, I would order immediate fly overs of the area to prove the point that we are in no danger of being fired upon by Russians.
     
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    Are you volunteering? Go sign up! Put your money where you mouth is.
     
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    Bloody neocon idiots…First of all, no one invited the USA to Syria. Attacking Syrian planes in their sovereign space is nothing but a crime of the highest order. Do you understand that?



    Only a complete fool could possibly think that the USA could take on China, Russia and Iran at the same time. You’re in for a rude awakening. Incidentally, it’s disgusting that the USA still supports ISIL fanatics. The Syrian fighter jet was bombing ISIL forces in retreat. Neoconservatives are hell bent on starting a WWIII. The war which could only bring absolute destruction to everyone. Lose-lose situation. No winners.



    Video Emerges Of US Allowing ISIS Fighters To Escape Safely in Syria

    http://theantimedia.org/video-us-allowing-isis-escape-syria/



    Video footage obtained by Al-Masdar appears to show convoys of ISIS fighters fleeing the Syrian city of Raqqa untouched by the U.S. military, which is currently bombing that exact location. As Al-Masdar notes, despite having Kurdish and American drones hovering around the city of Raqqa, U.S. bombs are nowhere to be seen as hundreds of fighters pass safely. The release of this footage comes on the heels of accusations from both Russia and Iran that the U.S. is colluding with ISIS to allow the group’s safe passage into areas controlled by the Syrian government.
     
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    I sort of doubt they would let me fly a combat aircraft over Syria. But yeah, I would do it. There is ZERO chance a Russian would fire upon a US air craft. We have an army at their border, and waiting for them to screw up. Putin cares more about being a dictator, than he does about poking the tiger.
     
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    You want a war - go enlist first. There are not only pilots needed in Syria, you can fight there on foot, I am sure.

    You can even fight russians, but probably for that you'll need to join other terrorists and warmongers, in ISIS.
     
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    I'm too old either way. But, if we went to war, it would be over before I got out of boot camp anyway. Russia will never attack us. They know that would be very bad for them.
     
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    So, you are planning to sit behind, while youngsters will die for you.

    Well, maybe you should just be content with video games, then. If none of your presidents, as well as our politicians, decided to test who survives nuclear war in reality - I think you should not too. Otherwise - hey, you may even win. Question is which of people dear to you will be casted on the wind as ashes in the process.
     
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    I'm not planning on anything. I'm too old, by their rules, either way. But, Russia will NEVER attack a US air craft. Never. Never ever ever ever. They know that if they do, they will be starting a war with all of Europe, and oh by the way, the most powerful army in the history of the world. Not gonna happen. Nope. Never. Nada. It's pure Russian fantasy. Russia likes to rattle their sabers, but they don't realize the rest of the world is not actually still using sabers.
     
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    You are rattling your saber right now. I assume this is a regular pleasure for men of all countries.
     
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    Oh, you don't know what that term means? LOL
     
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    I'd say you're not good with british humor and double meanings, old chap.
     
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    Wait, I thought "British humor" was a joke about them not being funny. Have I had it wrong all this time?
     
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    Apparently.
     
  16. Tijuana

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    Wait, wait wait. Slow down. Are you saying the British find say, Bennie Hill, to actually be funny? I always thought it was like a tongue in cheek thing or whatever. WOW.
     
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    hmm never say never, we wont goto a war with Russia over a plane, more likely is further sanction. it will take a lot provocation for US/Russia to be in a war.
     
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    Russia knows better. Putin is a lot of terrible things, but he isn't stupid.
     
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    The Trump administration continues to violate the constitution, international law, and common sense.

    The Congress has NOT authorized a war in Syria against that country's sovereign government. Therefore, ANY act of war committed in Syria against the government is a CRIME.

    Moreover, the UN Security Council has not authorized the USA to wage war against Syria's government, making the downing of a Syrian jet a unilateral breach of international law.

    Even worse, this is being done to help "rebels" who Trump said during the campaign "we have no idea who they are" and that our biggest problem in Syria was ISIS, not Assad.

    By attacking the SECULAR government of Syria, Trump is aiding the TERRORISTS who constitute the bulk of the rebel forces.

    Easily the most disturbing aspect of this CRIMINAL escalation in Syria is how it is effecting our relationship with Russia, a NUCLEAR power. Things have gotten so bad that Russia is now treating US aircraft as potential targets in Syrian airspace. This is INSANE.

    Americans and their Congressional representatives MUST stop Trump before something truly horrible happens.
     
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    Don't blame the Kurds. They aren't trying to overthrow the Assad government. The "rebels" (AKA terrorists) are doing that.
     
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    Are you out of your mind? You must be to think this is a good idea.
     
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    I am supremely confidant Russians will not fire on a US aircraft until they are fired upon. They can rattle their sabers all they want but, it's been so long since Russia was in real war, I'm not even sure that saber comes all the way out anymore.
     
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    Your supreme confidence is reckless and extremely dangerous. You have no idea if the Russians will fire on US forces or not, and you haven't considered the possibility of human or computer error. During the cold war, the USA and Russia almost fired nukes at one another several times due to misunderstandings. Flying a bunch of fighter jets into the Russian airspace would increase the probability of a catastrophic error substantially. You are increasing the risk of a nuclear war for NOTHING.
     
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    I remember when Putin deployed what was reported was an incredibly sophisticated anti-aircraft tracking and missile system (after the Turks shot one of their planes down). Subsequently the US has launched waves of missiles that didn't get intercepted, Turks and Russians have confronted each other in the air and the Coalition has been conducting operations against daesh. I suppose the Russians have been ignoring all this activity, otherwise their vaunted anti-aircraft system seems a bit defficient.

    Here's the Su-22:
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    (looks a bit antiquated to me)
    Here's the F-18 Super Hornet:
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    Give me a break. Neither we nor they are North Korea. Full scale war is unlikely, even if one aircraft is shot down. The Russians are just factually in no position to start a war with the US, or NATO. Like I already said, Putin is a lot of terrible things, but stupid isn't one of them.
     

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