Russian jets hit 12 ISIS targets in Syria, 'cause panic among extremists'

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  1. Giftedone

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    https://www.rt.com/news/317805-russia-hit-isis-tuesday/

    Strange that after years of the US claiming to be fighting ISIS - ISIS only got stronger.

    Barely a week after Russia take over and ISIS is in a panic.

    Is it that the US does not have the capability to take on ISIS or is it that we were not really fighting ISIS at all ?
     
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    4 or 5 days in, it appears that the ISIS camps may have been spared by the US for some reason, probably sinister. Not so with the Russians--they offer no deception, just the brutal truth in attempting to aid a legitimately elected government.

    I cannot help but chuckle at how bad the US looks after this. Years of deception, years of regime change might be coming to a screeching halt, at least there in Syria.
     
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    So Russia is putting the same whuppin on ISIS as the Soviet Union did the mujahideen in Afghanistan?
     
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    The US is allied with Saudi Arabia and supports more or less open Sunni fanatics, who want to exterminate the Shia, because the US defines Iran as their arch enemy. So, yes, the US never had the intention to take effective action against IS.
     
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    Actually, it's too short time to claim any essential result. I think we can talk about ISIS running after Syrian army will free some big city, maybe Idlib or Aleppo.
     
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    Well Russia is playing for keeps and the USA was dawdling trying not to hit any of its "moderate" rebels. Read CIA agents.

    Now the CIA has to withdraw its agents or leave them to die.

    Russia, from their point of view, needs to prop up Assad and try to expand their influence in the area.


    Well, what I think is that the USA had its chance and failed (and failed again), and now it's time for Russia to lay out the beat stick. And as an unintended side effect it's bringing the USA back from the edge because we need to disengage from the situation.
     
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    Our President rides around on a girls bike....with a helmet what did everyone think he was going to do with ISIS. Like I said the other day...Putin calls the shots now and Obama gets the f out if his way. Obama should insert his manpon and just sit in his office until Putin needs him.
     
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    It's that we are not fighting ISIS at all. Lavrov said a few weeks ago that the US knows every ISIS base, yet it hasn't bombed any of them. One of the reasons would be that as long as ISIS exists, it gives the US and Turkey an excuse to go into Syria as well as a reason why Assad should go. . Russia undid that one. All of Syria is now a no fly zone...under Russia of course.

    The other reason is that ISIS is a direct threat to Russia, so as long as it continues to exist Washington sees it as beneficial...regardless of the hundreds of thousands of Christians that will be massacred because of them.

    This is not the first time the US has supported terrorists albeit indirectly. The US worked with Osama Bin Laden when the Soviet Union was in Afghanistan, and later on the CIA helped the terrorists in Chechnya..which is a part of the Russian Federation. When Putin called Washington on it, the response was 'we have every right to be there'.
     
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    ISIS is like the Blob....it cannot be stopped.
     
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    And yet Russia isn't actually attacking the IS.

    Putin groupies suck at propaganda.
     
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    I can't understand these people that feel the US should be tough, without taking a good look at our policies and what we are doing throughout the world. It would be similar to the Germans saying Merkel is not tough enough, they need someone like Adolph Hitler. Think about it? Was he more evil than us right now?

    The US, Britain, France and Israel have no legal right to be in Syria...or to bomb Syria. Russia in contrast does have that right...as does Iran and even China since they were invited in by the legally recognized President Assad.

    Vladimir Putin has not only legal justice on his side, but moral justice as well...and I think that's what Americans should be looking at rather than the white is black, and black is white propaganda of Washington's press.
     
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    Many of us feel the US should have stuck by the Monroe Doctrine and have no problem with what is transpiring.
     
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    Pentagon: "Hmmm! Now see let's see, who should we be arming today?"

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    Obviously none of them! But then how is Syria going to get a democracy?

    They wont! It's just going to become one of Russia's corrupt friends.
     
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    Comparing the coward rats of ISIS to the Pashtun Afghans is like comparing the French and the Spartans.
     
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    Perhaps itès like the fingernails which have to be sheared off in length once every now and then.
     
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    It's a failed ME policy. Obama is way out of his depth. Putin filled in the vacuum caused by America's withdrawal 'inspired' by President Obama who made the very bad decision to leave Iraq twisting in the wind after we went in and destroyed the Saddam Hussein tyrannical reign.

    Now its too late to do anything about Putin as he sides with Iran and Assad in killing Syrian rebels that include both U.S. supported rebels and ISIS. I believe all are Sunni BTW.
     
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    But how about our policies in Iraq, and what caused the rise of terrorists like ISIS? Certainly you don't think people are going to like those who killed their brothers, mothers, fathers, children, etc. Don't you think they would want revenge? Wouldn't you? As for Iraq, do you think it is better off after our visit? Do you think Libya is better off because of our visit?
     
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    Obama's policy in Iraq was to leave it twisting in the wind. I already said that. I would imagine that there is an overwhelming hatred of ISIS from those who had their families slaughtered and their daughters repeatedly raped. There are an overwhelming number of people seeking revenge for ISIS mass shootings and videos showing people being burned alive and beheaded. Iraq WAS better off....before Obama abandoned them. Talk to Obama about Libya.

    The whole thing is a mess. Putin will likely prevail in the M.E. with Assad and Iran. Sunnis will be genetically eliminated.
     
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    Your concern about US troops in Iraq is misplaced because Sunni cooperation was required for that solution to work. We did not have the trust or cooperation of Sunnis at the time Bush signed our troops out of Iraq. Maliki disenfranchised Sunnis and was running lethal assaults on the Sunni population with his military and through Shiite militias. Sunnis accepted ISIL as they are included in government and the violence wasn't notably different between ISIL and Maliki.

    Today, our strategy has been to work with prime minister Al-Abadi who has moved toward acceptance of Sunnis. As Sunnis gain trust in the Iraqi government, ISIL will find acceptance harder and there will be more opportunity for directly moving on ISIL.

    Your comment about Sunnis is just plain ignorant. Syria is about 75% Sunni. Shiites are a tiny minority of Muslims, concentrated in Iran and parts of neighboring countries.
     
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    We chose prime minister Maliki when their election ended in a four way virtual tie. Maliki had worked with the Bush administration by being the Iraqi point man in eliminating Sunnis from Iraqi politics, civil service, military, banking, economics, electricity, natural resources, etc. We called that "deBaathification", as these people were pretty much all members of the ruling Baath party under Sadam H.

    When he became prime minister, Maliki continued to disenfranchise Sunnis - removing them from politics and their jobs as well as attacking Sunni civilians who were living in cities that Maliki considered Shiite. This was a murderous and uncontrolled civil war.

    That created an opening for ISIL, as Sunnis weren't in a position to oppose ISIL, the Shiite militias and the Maliki military, plus ISIL promised inclusion - Sunnis got their jobs back. Unfortunately, that included the military experts, of course.

    Iraq has been a bloody fiasco, has propagated ISIL and has exported other terrorism as well. Iraq is an obvious candidate for being the stupidest things the US has ever done.
     
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    You can measure how good the Russkies are doing, by the volume
    of the Squealing coming out of the Washington War Pigs :roflol:


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    Now in Syria the Russian pilots strike airstrikes to objects of terrorists of ISIS, at the request of the Syrian president B. Assad. The entry of Russia in fight against ISIS gave real effect in restriction of terrorism in Syria.

    The policy of Russia in the Middle East causes respect as in Europe (many popular people write about it), and among the Arab countries (Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria...)

    And business not only that actions of Russia in recent days led to big results, than actions of the western coalition for some years. Simply Russia doesn't seek to colonize the Arab countries, to displace the lawful management and to impose the own rules of the game.
     

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