Russian statement on what it says was a major Ukrainian attack

I disagree; it's the idiots making US policy since at least 2014 who are to blame. They actually thought that US carriers and cruisers would be docking at the historically Russian naval base of Sevastopol, and set forth a long term plan to make that happen. Blind fools!

 

Ok Lindsey, some of us still have souls, so we disagree with spending $100B with nothing to show for it but 500,000 corpses.

 

It's not my problem that you choose to be blind to what is really going on and what is at stake.

 

Nothing more pathetic than stupid Americans supporting nokraine's nazis. Go ahead and practice some Seig Heils while you're at it.

 

What is at stake is my life. And the people risking it are visionless elitists, who actually thought it was a good idea for the US navy to dock in Crimea.

 

If your life is at stake, then so is mine. If your family's life is at stake, then so is mine.

I'm cool with it, mainly because I don't buy into the fear mongering propaganda that you keep spewing here.

And funnily enough, I won't feel bad if you or Bill do get vaporized.

 

Fear mongering would be telling the world that we must pour all of our treasure into, and all of our military might against the fight with this man, or he will take over everyone.

Tucker's 90M views in one day must mean Putin's propaganda has penetrated deep. A lot of people seem to want to hear a different Ukraine narrative.

 

The plan may have been this simple: we had already done regime change in Ukraine, so if we could do regime change in Russia, then Chevron and Esso and a few other companies would get the money from Russian gas.

 

You disagree??....I could give two phucks .....2014 had phuck all to do with it really....the little pocket chimp Putler had plans since Day 1 of him taking office in 2000 of try to resurrect the "old band" which was the former SU....now that the $hitstain caused all this upheaval....it's going to cost the RF big time....enjoy the further splitting of the "gas station"....

 

Ohh...come on Bill,best use of tax $$$..when Crimea is liberated and the RuZZki Mafiosi filth is tossed out....the peninsula will become an international resort....real estate values will be through the roof, a wonderful buying opportunity and short sighted thinking on your part.

I would cash in those Sberbank shares of yours soon....if or I should say when Mafiosi crashes and burns and splinters.....your shares won't be worth Jack $hit...it'll be like post war Germany , where a wheelbarrow of Marks couldn't buy a loaf of bread.

Something to ponder...Billy.

 

No, you are misrepresenting the alternative as a straw man argument to try and make your argument look better.

If Putin is not stopped in Ukraine, he will go further and cause even more death and destruction and social disruption here and in Europe. That is his path forward, his path to success instead of early retirement.

As for Tucker Carlson, he does exemplify how much the Neo KGB has infiltrated the American right wing. Their social media bots and trolls, and their countless garbage websites publishing garbage that they produce or dredge up from elsewhere and then use those bots and trolls to disseminate as far and wide as they can, have made so-called Republicans more hostile to their fellow countrymen than they are toward "Christian" Putin and his Reich.

 

I think Dwarfstan would like to partition Germany again...I suspect he misses those days when he was a low level "plumber" in Dresden.

But...that won't happen....since I presume the lime pits already been dug for him....for this epic cluster phuck....it's a question of timing now?

 

Yet Georgia remains an independent nation which has criticized the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Why didn't he absorb Georgia?

Ukraine remained independent after Putin seized Crimea in 2014 (he knew the DC zealots had visions of US aircraft carriers or cruisers parked in Sevastopol). Why did he wait to absorb Ukraine for 8 years until we trained a Ukrainian army with modern weaponry (everyone knew of the high tech weaponry sent over the years as it was debated often; certainly Putin was aware)?

He doesn't seem to be resurrecting the SU. He seems to be attacking right after being directly provoked by NATO.

 

This boils down to 1 thing: DC politicians and bureaucrats pushed for Ukraine to become NATO. That meant American warships in Crimea. That's what being in NATO means. Ate you going to tell me that they pushed for NATO, but they were NOT for NATO warships in Crimea?!

There was no need for NATO to push forces to Russia's doorstep and upset the balance of power. This is an existential threat to Russia, and humans have already shown that they will use WMD's over less than existential threats.

 

No worries...after the Russki "military" is beat the $hit out of to a point where the Kremlin porch monkey can only threaten with his "nukes" , Ukraine will join NATO and the USS Gerald R Ford,or Vinson, or Lincoln ,or JFK,etc, will be parked in Sevastopol harbor....and Dwarfstan or whomever comes after can deal with endless hemorrhoids and migraines.

 

I don't think he has enough poor people from the regions available to grind his way back to Germany.

 

I'm glad you're not in charge. I would keep all of our carriers out of range of certain hypersonic missiles. We don't want to be caught on the wrong side of a technological shift like the shift from battleships to carriers. If they can launch hypersonics from subs, that's a game changer.

 

This is just my guess, but I don't think the plan was to destroy Russia using weapons,
but to destabilize Russia by threatening destruction, to get the population to agree to capitulate,
to then break up Russia into a number (17 I recall) small republics with which big oil companies
could get good financial arrangements.

 

Yes....right....Putler has culled most of the "ethnics" from those troublesome regions....he doesn't dare use the "real" Russkis from Moscow &Pete

 

As for the dam, before Russia even risks a conflict there is careful consideration of the end state after the conflict.
Russia would not blow up the dam because it benefits no one and harms many people, most of them Russians.
But there is a third possibility, that the dam was destroyed not by Ukraine either but by catastrophic failure of a turbine.

 

Certain "hypersonic missiles"?

You mean those Kinzhals ?....that 30 yr old Patriot systems shot down??

Those appear duds...so much so that Putler arrested and imprisoned 3 of its top designers.

Failure is not an option in Mafiosi.

 

Even hypersonics need time to reach their target. A moving target with classified defensive capabilities and assisted by many other classified detection and interception capabilities on other craft.

Not that Russia would ever be dumb enough to try it anyway. They know it would be suicide.

 

I don't know where you're getting this latest "warships in Crimea" obsession from. I have to guess it's some Neo KGB sewage outlet.

No American ships anywhere in the world would justify this invasion of Ukraine. Not even remotely.

 

Oh, don't worry. I am sure the U.S. will have good will ship visits to Crimea after Russia loses, Ukraine retakes the occupied territories, and Ukraine has joined NATO. Putler sure screwed this one up.

 

Well ya, sortof, Hitler was asleep because his war staff believed Normandy was just such a feint. Due in no small part to the success of Operation Fortitude you mentioned, but still... they actually didn't know it when the real invasion was happening. Their guys in the field new it of course, but that didnt help them.