Russian Tanks Cross Border Into Ukraine

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  1. Tejas

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    Correction on my typo in my previous post = FDR sent over 11 billion dollars in military aid and hardware to marxist Stalin via lend-lease

    All most people today know about Hitler and the Third Reich is demonizing war propaganda which became "history" propagated by lying marxist victors.

    What America and most of the [former] Christian West did was ally with their worst enemy [perverted antichrist marxists] to destroy Hitler [the ONE Western leader who could have saved the Christian West from evil perverted antichrist marxism.]

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  2. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The difference between the West and Russia, is that that there is proof of Nato's bombs and illegalities but no proof of anything Washington and its allies accuse Russia of.
     
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    Like I said....We ...LET THEM...in.
    Had it not been for massive lend lease for Koba Stalinovka.....most Russkis would've ended up as lampshades in German living rooms.
     
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    Seems the US sponsored Bandarist Fascist puppets in Kiev are Yellowing Out !
    Seems that they have concluded that taking Crimea, Donetsk & Luhansk would not be
    ............................................................... the NATO backed Cake Walk they had hoped for

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    After The Bear Showed Its Teeth The Ukraine Filed For Peace?

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/...ed-its-teeth-the-ukraine-filed-for-peace.html

    From The Article:
    First the Ukraine said it would use force to recover the renegade Donbass region as
    well as Crimea. It then moved heavy troops towards the contact lines. The ceasefire
    at the contact line was broken multiple times per day.
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    Russia gave several verbal warnings that any Ukrainian attack on the renegade provinces
    of Luhansk and Donetsk or Crimea would cause a serious Russian intervention.
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    It seems that order has come from Washington to stand down



    Zelensky Lodges Request To Talk With Putin About Escalation In Donetsk
    https://www.unian.info/politics/esc...dges-request-to-talk-with-putin-11384800.html

    From The Article:
    "The president's office, of course, made a request to speak with Vladimir Putin. We have
    not received an answer yet and we very much hope that this is not a refusal of dialogue,"
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    Putin should make the obsequious American Puppet kiss his Toe :)
     
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  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems like a war is inevitable - and Turkey's going to be blasted out of existence the way it's carrying on. The fear is the genocide of the people in Donetsk and Lugansk based on Kiev's past actions. Russia together with Belarus now has 4/5ths of Ukraine surrounded.

    Russia's fleet was brought from the Caspian Sea to the Black Sea. Now how'd they do that? How'd they do that? Well they didn't carry the ships over the mountains, nor did they pick them up with helicopters and drop them into the Black Sea. There is a waterway, which I had always assumed there was, between the Volga which empties into the Caspian, and the Don River.

    Putin will be making a very important speech on April 21 to the Duma which will concern Ukraine.
     
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    Hmmm? Biden doesn't need the headache of U.S. involvement in another Middle Eastern or Eastern European War. Neither the U.S. people or our allies are interested either. Putin, on the other hand, needs the occasional bone to throw to those who keep him in power. My guess is that there are two main groups who support Putin, with their respective bases lying in Russian nationalism and globalism (similar to the U.S. in some respects): the Russian military and the Russian oligarchs. The military leans toward Russian nationalism, while the oligarchs lean toward globalism and the freedom it allows them to purchase Western toys, such a mansions and yachts. Putin, who just sheparded a new Russian law through the Russian parliament that will allow him to remain as President for the rest of his life, owes one to his supporters (being somewhat less the absolute dictator than Stalin was). My guess is that in the wake of his failure with Trump (a supporter of the Russian oligarchs and Big Oil), that owed favor will now go to the Russian military to off-set the oligarchs dissatisfaction regarding Putin's failure with Trump. That means to allow the Russian military a freer hand in Ukraine and Eastern Europe. Not enough to start a WW III (which no one wants), but just enough to appease the populisim of Russian nationalism.
     
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    Propaganda is something false.. I have stated nothing false - It is no secret that Obama presided over the coalition of nations that armed - supported - supplied the Anti Assad rebels - for roughly 5 years. Obama himself stated this -

    It is not a secret that these "Anti Assad Rebels" coalesced into two factions - which formed a new country - a new State .. the Islamic State (IS) .. sometimes referred to as ISIS but this neglects the Al Qaeda faction (some would say intentionally but that is another story).

    The armed insurgency started in late 2011 - by mid 2013 the rebels controlled every major city in Syria - sans Damascus. and in late 2013 a New Islamic State was declared - with an economy - trade in oil and other commodities - courts - police and so on.

    The war from this point on was Assad fighting the Islamic State - there was no other Anti Assad fighting force - yet the coalition continued to support the Anti Assad forces - the Islamic State - for years after this point.

    Which part do you claim is "Propaganda" ?
     
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    Yes - I noted that the lyrics were tailored to Putin in my response.

    You are convinced that Obama was not Evil are you not .. or at least not as "Evil" as Putinski .. so who is more effective at convincing people he is not evil - ?
     
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    Total marxist BS.

    I like Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings" books which contain a lot of Nordic-style pagan symbolism... but that doesn't make me a pagan. Tolkien was Catholic!

    Hitler liked Wagner's operas which included ancient German mythology. Hitler was Catholic!

    Hitler said he would enter Berlin like Christ entered the temple and throw out the moneychangers. Christianity was the Third Reich's only official recognized religion and there were many Third Reich Christian holidays. In 1938 Hitler helped Russians build a Russian Orthodox Church in Berlin. During the post-war Nuremberg trials, Julius Streicher testified that Biblical racial law was the model for Hitler's Third Reich Nuremberg racial laws.

    I know I am totally wasting my time and effort to try to undo marxist lying propaganda Americans [and other Westerners] have been spoonfed. First marxists conquered your minds... now they are conquering your countries.

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    Merkel made it very clear to Merkel and Macron that there is no other solution to the situation other than the Minsk II agreement which Kiev signed yet hasn't carried through on anything. In the meantime all these attacks on civilians is to ethnically cleanse them from their lands to change the demographics, so the Russian/Ukrainians won't be in the majority if the two Republics rejoin.

    There is no reason for Putin to talk to anyone, he has stated his position. He refused to meet with the OSCE as well, and good for him since they ignore the attacks on civilians and on the infrastructure of the Republics.

    Two days ago there were explosions in the warehouse that carries the meat supplies for Donetsk, and that's in addition to the water that is being held from Crimea during the drought. So much for the love the junta has for its own people. What is shows is that their only intent is to ethnically cleanse the areas by whatever means possible, including genocide.

    As for Turkey, they have their own ambitions towards Crimea. In the Ottoman mind, if there is even one Turk still living in an area, then it legally belongs to them. It no more matters to them that 90% of the people on Crimea are Russian, then it did when they invaded Cyprus and grabbed 1/3 of the island - thanks to Kissinger.
     
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    The Wagner stuff isn't very Christian either. The Nibelung stories came from far antiquity when nobody even remotely thought of Christianity or Judaism.

    Hitler was raised Catholic but later behaved towards this religion. Jesus stands for love and peace but Hitler wanted war. :(
     
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    Some of the old Norse myths about the end of the age are quite Biblical. There is a reason for that. Many of those old Norse tribes were descended from Israelites [the tribes of Israel God divorced in the Old Testament - 8th century BC - removed from Palestine, became gentiles and later embraced Christianity. Russian legend says that it was St Andrew who first brought Christianity to the Slavs and Rus.

    Jesus said He came NOT to send peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34

    Jesus said He came to bring division even within families. Matthew 10:35-36

    Jesus said He came to set fire to the earth and wished it were already kindled. Luke 12:49

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    I'm pretty sure you have that backwards. I think it was Christianity that borrowed traditions from pagan myths to make it more palatable to pagan tribes.
     
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    You believe that because like the evil perverted marxists you are antichrist!!

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    Lol, wow. You got me with that argument!
     
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    Yah - Sharp Like !
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    So Jesus must have been
    an American Corporate CEO or Military Industrial Bureaucrat then ?
     
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    Have you been to Berlin? Are you aware where Patton's troops were at that time?
    How could the USA take Berlin first? (Note I have been to Berlin when the Communists held the Eastern part of the city)
     
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    Just because a person is baptized doesn't mean they are a Christian. What it means is that they have a greater potential to become a Christian. To become one they have to acquire the Holy Spirit within their hearts, and I wouldn't exactly call the spirit in Hitler's heart the Holy Spirit. He was demon possessed, as was Lenin and Marx.


     
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    The Fathers of the Church incorporated the holidays and substituted the Prophets for the gods, as well as other traditions. But this was within God's plan, since there's a growth factor in everything - and that includes spiritual growth as well. People had to adapt to Christian beliefs, and the greater the similarity to certain myths, the easier it was for pagans to accept and adapt to them.
     
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    And that's one of the issues with liberal democracies. Dictatorships have no such
    burdens. Hanoi for instance could lie all it like - America had its Pentagon Papers.
    Hanoi could violate all agreements but America couldn't in the glare of the media.
    It's the same with Russia - there's enough left wing sympathizers and corporate
    business interests to ensure that Russia will get the benefit of the doubt.

    But there's no doubt Russia meddles, and kills.
     
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    The real alliance was between Germany and Russia. There was no need for 'propaganda' against the Nazis,
    it was there for all to see. And what wasn't came to light after the Nazis were gone, ie the concentration camps.
    Had Hitler taken Russia he could have finished off the Mediterranean and African campaigns, giving him a good
    chance of taking Britain, and thus America.
    The real propaganda concerned the USSR - so many did not believe what Stalin was like.
     
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    Berezovsky was certainly no Christian when Putin's blasphemous Stalinistic KGB "church" baptized that evil antichrist oligarch!!

    Like Putin you continue to glorify the evil church-destroying mass-murdering antichrist marxist bolsheviks... while you are mute about the Christian Third Rome and traditional Russian Orthodoxy that the evil antichrist marxist bolsheviks perverted and destroyed.

    Neither of you antichrist worshipers are qualified to judge Hitler's Third Reich.

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    I don't engage in endless blasphemous debates with infidels.

    As Jesus said, you don't believe because you do not belong to Him. John 10:26-27

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    If you're not Atossa, you certainly attend the same church or inhabit the same house or schizophrenic brain..
     
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    I totally believe and Jesus, and have a great relationship with him. I'm not sure you have ever talked to him if you believe he would call me the "antichrist", lol.
     
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