Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data.

I'm not discussing 9/11 theory. I meant not every brainwashed killer can be redeemed in time, even putting in excruciating effort to be patient with them.

 

AboveAlpha, You don't understand me. I don't want you to post MORE evidence. This is not just about the piles of evidence in the public archives.

This is not about a crisis of faith.

This is not about the American Astronauts who speak out.

This is about the sordid reputation of UFO files in our society. There is a 90% chance that the same websites that contain UFO information also cover mysticism, numerology, and some form of doomsday myth. And, this is about the age of the material itself: all well known material is from the 1950s-70s, the age of aircraft tests, and there has been a drastic reduction in the number of incidents as years go by.

This is that the information in the public archives is also all questions, no answers; Bits and pieces. That method of digging is how archeologists or detectives work to discover history, not how a citizen, like myself, would be introduced and educated on a credible subject. The official answers have already been explained away as nothing. And, unlike a topic like the "French Revolution," I won't ever find a reputable, organized and sourced article in a place like the History Sourcebook, rather than a website who gets their funding by selling meditation stones.

This is about my embarrassment to even look at the material.

In fact, it's probably already too late for the USA government to even test the waters of public opinion ahead of time if they want to know whether the common citizens are ready to handle the evidence or not. The Government probably did too good a job at covering "E.T." up. There is a wall of skepticism they would have difficulty breaking though even if, tomorrow, they offered continual certified public demonstrations.

 

Wgabrie,

Your last paragraph make sense, government has done a too good of job, now people can't crack that wall open to even look at the evidence, but that only apply to Americans. Just in China alone, survey show half of the population believe alien exist and are here on earth, Russians are very open to ET reality, Mexico, Brazil, France, Denmark, many nations and their people are a lot more open to see the evidence and believe.

Keep making excuses and keep the wall up, you will only find that Americans will be ones who LAG BEHIND and will be left behind regarded as close minded and ignorant society by the world.

 

Whatever links I provide are those I have closely looked at to determine if they are a hoax or not.

AboveAlpha

 

Well, yay for mister insider, sigh. (<- That's nothing personal, I've just been trying to work the angry eyes into a post for a few days now. It's a symbol of my internal frustration.)

Okay, let's just clear the air. To be fair I can neither confirm nor deny your argument.

So, let's say for argument's sake that what you say is true. Where do you want to take the discussion from here? Do you want to circle back to the first post and talk about the Russians, or would you like to talk about one of the other topics that have appeared in this discussion?

 

I think I would like to explore the reasoning behind two opposite sides of the issue.

Those two sides being the reasons why some people decide to make up a story about being abducted as the number of real abductions is tiny compared to what is reported.

And the opposite side being the reasons why some people choose to ignore reports and even ignore viable reports and Astronaut testimony detailing the existence of E.T.

The two groups are at the very extreme ends of this issue and I can't really understand the psychology involved here.

AboveAlpha

 

I think people make up abduction stories either because they want to feel included, or they want to laugh inside at anyone who takes them seriously, or they had an old nightmare that somehow was re-written as if it were awake reality during their brain's internal memory examination cycle, or they have been exposed to a hallucinogenic substance (either intentionally or unintentionally), or they have an undiagnosed case of dementia, or they are just excited and gossip the stories from their social group.

I think people who resist evidence are either terrified inside, or they are looking for subjects to case aside (and stubbornly reject) perhaps after their fall out of religion, or they don't care anymore, or they are nationalistic and would prefer to maintain the official illusion even if they aren't in on it, or even if they actually are in on it, or they look down on previous generations as gullible and unreliable sources of information (even if they are primary sources), or they took a logic or philosophy class and want to be a pain in the neck, or they are just excited and portray it as the cold shoulder.

 

OK...those are both viable explanations.

Taking it a step further...why is it that people who have the ability to reason and understand the High Probability stating Alien Life would exist in the Galaxy never mind the Universe...as well as the almost statistical IMPOSSIBILITY that Intelligent Life could not exist elsewhere in the Universe as a person would have a better chance to get hit by lightning wearing an a rubber suit in a Sub under the ocean 100 times in the same day and at the same time win every lottery upon the Earth running even though they never bought a ticket! LOL!

Why do people such as these refuse to accept the reality?

AboveAlpha

 

It's because without evidence, most people will think that alien life will be animals like they would see in a zoo, on the farm, or during a safari. Not creatures flying aircraft.

It's because of the way that life has evolved on the Earth to have only one dominant species, humans. Humans are the most advanced species on Earth, when we look around at the other animals we see creatures of varying intelligences, some that can use tools, or form social groups, but none of them seem to have the ambition or ability to uplift themselves out of their dependence on the natural cycle of the environment.

So, even where life exists in the millions on Earth it seems to be rare that it will take off to develop a civilization that can build on the successes of previous generations and maybe climb into the space domain.

Maybe if this conversation about alien life had taken place millenia ago when there were other hominids co-existing with modern humans (homo sapiens sapiens), or if another species had co-evolved on Earth with similar ambitions to humans, it would have been easier to reason that Intelligent Life would be anything other than a rare occurrence.

 

It's not just about the statistical chance of Intelligent Life either. It has to be intelligent life that can pass stuff onto the next generation.

I remember that in recent years every so often intelligent spider colonies form and are covered in the media: Hyper Intelligent Spiders Work Together to Lure, Trap and Eat Human Prey (no they weren't actually hunting humans, it's just the first article I found on the subject of intelligent spiders). But then they die off at the end of the season and they can't pass their knowledge on to the next generation.

This cycle of life on earth is only the latest in a series of growth and extinction cycles. Intelligence is useless in the long term if it can't pass knowledge on to the next generation, Intelligent life has not always demonstrated the ability to last.

 

Hello!

Why governments don' t say nothing, never, to people about aliens if they exist? My wife understand russian language and she said this video is fake. Who i must believe now?

 

I understand what you are saying but still the fact Humans exist and the fact anyone can look into the night sky and see the Billions of stars visible just in our Galaxy I would think be enough for the average person to put 2 and 2 together.

There are about 200 Billion stars in the Milky Way Galaxy and in the Universe there are anywhere from 125 to 300 BILLION GALAXIES each Galaxy having anywhere from 75 Billion to 1 Trillion Stars each and thus this means there are about 10 Million Earth Like Planets on AVERAGE per galaxy thus 2,000,000,000,000,000,000 Earth Like Planets in the Universe and even in only 10% of them had any form of life that would mean 200 Quadrillion Life Bearing Planets existing in the Universe and if only 1 out of 100 Thousand had intelligent life that would mean there would exist 2,000,000,000,000 or 2 TRILLION INTELLIGENT LIFE BEARING PLANETS...and that is if each planet only had ONE intelligent species.

So...it is difficult to understand why people don't pay attention to the probabilities.

AboveAlpha

 

Hi, which one is fake?

The Documentary seems very soild.

And please watch the movie The Fourth Kind. It's a movie based on true story

 

It works like this.. We have a tendency to form groups and hate outsiders from outside the group we formed... Way back to our early days and even with our ancestral species, we formed tribes and fought each other (just like we do now) and got hardwired with an "us vs. them" mentality. The "love everyone" genes died off while the "kill everyone else besides us" genes were easier passed on because we stole competitors land and food and so had an advantage. We got to where we are today by kicking ass.

Those genes are still with us. That's how we are so easily divided. That's why so many people don't like outsiders. Right vs. left, coke vs. Pepsi, Trayvon vs. Zimmerman, Cubs vs. White Sox.. You name it.

And it's ALWAYS we are the best, and ALWAYS they are the worst. No happy medium, no gray area. Well usually but some are worse than others and there's exceptions. But this might seem counterproductive. Wouldn't you want to challenge your own knowledge? Not back then. When you learned who was a predator, that's it, no time for second guessing. Or you smell prey, that's it, you have to act or you go hungry. It's one of the shortcuts the brain takes. We learned by observation so it worked. Nowadays, we learn by others telling us stuff, half the time they're lying. So this automatically assimilate the information and never challenge it characteristic kinda came back to bite us in the ass now.

This includes the worldviews we adopt. Our brain actually rewards us for confirming our already formed biases. That's why nobody hardly ever changes their stance, and why people are drawn to the blogs and pundits that match their political persuasion. That's why every single issue is polarized to the extremes, not just this alien one.

Either, mankind has never ever affected the climate in any way, or mankind is fully responsible for all warming. Either Obama is a valiant warrior defending our freedoms, or he's the manifestation of the antichrist. Either guns should be banned across the board, or we should be allowed to have RPGs and tanks... Either 9/11 happened exactly the way the government said and they got it perfectly correct in every aspect right down to the finest detail and if you question even one spec of it you are a nutter in a tinfoil hat, or the Twin Towers were knocked over by lazer beams shot from the eyeballs of the lizard people.

It's just the way we are.. I hope it makes sense and is helpful.. I am not an expert. This is just what I think.. But I have been studying a lot of anthropology the last couple years and it does make sense.

 

AboveAlpa,

I have just finished watching The Fouth Kind. It's very SCARY. But there are A LOT OF ACTUAL EVENTS RECORDS in the movie.

Did you see when DR, Tyler was under hypnosis in the ACTUAL FOOTAGE OF THE RECORDING, a man's voice come out of her speaking Sumerian language and claim himself a savior and God? I was right, AA, the alien want to take the role of savior.

And she was rise up from the couch and floating for quite a while, THAT just like demon possession. Have not all these give you clues the connection between the aliens and fallen angels? It is very OBVIOUS.

Anyone who don't believe in abduction cases, watch this movie. SOMETHING IS HAPPENING AROUND US.

 

By the way, you said it is an unknown kind of alien, the sumerian language should give us a club, they may be the Annunika. the ancient "god" of Sumerian have come to America.

 

About this alien phenomenon and their true identity and their real goal, I think this time we Christians get it right.

Remember, Jesus has authority over these advance and dangerous entities, anything happen, CALL OUT HIS NAME.

 

Actually, quite many governments want the truth out, like China, India, Mexico, France, Russia, Brazil...........but it is the US gov't and its masters keep bully them into silence, all they can do is to leak some information here and there to show their dis-satisfation, everytime, their officals and credible people come out try to tell the truth, it would be quickly be crash down.

 

Mexican Defense Department Confirms Existence of UFOs
[video=youtube;tmM3yQNuAzY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmM3yQNuAzY[/video]

IT IS THE FIRST TIME UFO HAS HAD ANY BACKING OF ANY COUNTRY ARM FORCES

 

Chinese and Indian military confirmed space alien base in The Himalayas!
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/09/report-space-alien-base-in-the-himalayas-2471028.html

"“India has found an active UFO base in The Himalayas. We are working with China and the U.N. to discuss how to handle this alien incursion. We do not want our people to be alarmed. We are confident we can contain this threat from an alien culture.” — said Indian Defense Minister, A.K. Antony"

"Background

Reports of intensified hostilities between alleged extra-terrestrials and Chinese-Indian military forces since 1998 are being investigated by the region’s researchers. Many villagers across the countryside are terrified of strange craft navigating the skies day and night.

Forces of the Chinese military were activated to confirm the evidence that strange beings from another world are operating a mysterious base near the no-man’s land in the mountainous terrain by the Indian border.

The armored forces of the People’s Liberation Army were stopped dead in their tracks when the topography of the land changed blocking their advance toward the alleged base.

Now new reports are circulating that the Chinese Navy has embarked on an unofficial alliance with the sea forces of both the Russian Federation and the United States of America to defend against an emerging ET presence that threatens spacefaring nations on the land, sea, and near Earth orbit."..........

 

That Movie is a work of FICTION.

The people who wrote it specifically played upon most peoples fears of loss of control of their body and an Alien Life Form pretending to be a GOD.

AboveAlpha

 

NO, IT IS NOT FICTION. It contains A LOT OF ACTUAL FOOTAGE OF THE RECORDINGS.

It is a DOCUMENTARY that based on TRUE STORY.

BTW, you said it was an unknown alien race, the Sumerian language give us a clue, they are Annunika.

 

UFO alien disclosure by Canadian defense minister
[video=youtube;XEQdvYFMBAU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEQdvYFMBAU[/video]

 

Sweetie...you are talking to ME.

I KNOW for CERTAIN that this movie is a HOAX.

To promote the film, Universal Pictures created a website with fake news stories supposedly taken from real Alaska newspapers, including the Nome Nugget and the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner. The newspapers sued Universal, eventually reaching a settlement where Universal would remove the fake stories and pay $20,000 to the Alaska Press Club and a $2,500 contribution to a scholarship fund for the Calista Corporation.[6]

LINK...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fourth_Kind

LINK...http://io9.com/5397359/the-fourth-kind-is-a-hoax

This next link details how Universal Pictures was SUED for using FAKE FOOTAGE in the movie.

LINK...http://www.weirdfresno.com/2009/11/universal-sued-over-fake-footage-in.html


FAIRBANKS &#8212; Universal Pictures has reached a settlement with a handful of Alaska newspapers, including the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, for using fabricated &#8220;news archives&#8221; to promote a recently released movie.

Universal agreed to pay $20,000 to the Alaska Press Club, along with a $2,500 contribution to a scholarship fund for the Bethel-based Calista Corp. Anchorage attorney John McKay, who negotiated the settlement on behalf of the seven media organizations, said an emergency shelter in Nome also will receive an unspecified amount of money, although it wasn&#8217;t listed as a recipient in the settlement agreement.

Universal created an elaborate series of online news articles in the promotion for its movie, &#8220;The Fourth Kind.&#8221; The movie claims to be a true story about a plague of alien abductions in Nome a decade ago.

To bolster that claim, articles were posted that professed to be from real Alaska publications, but were actually created to bolster the movie&#8217;s storyline.

The articles included an obituary and news story about the death of a character in the movie, Dr. William Tyler, that supposedly were from the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner. Neither the story nor the obituary ever appeared in the newspaper.

Fake articles were listed from other newspapers in Alaska, including The Nome Nugget, alongside authentic news stories. Part of the settlement also requires Universal to remove the fake &#8220;news articles&#8221; promoting the movie from the internet.

McKay said that attributing false stories to real publications undermines those newspapers&#8217; credibility.

&#8220;If people can&#8217;t rely on the fact that when they look at a news article on the Web that it&#8217;s from the newspaper it appears to be, or is written by the reporter it appears to be, it erodes confidence in the world of journalism,&#8221; McKay said.

McKay said it didn&#8217;t appear that the advertising campaign was cleared by attorneys at Universal Pictures, and he praised the company for responding quickly to the complaints.

&#8220;I think they were embarrassed by it and acted very promptly,&#8221; he said.

The settlement comes as an unexpected boon for the Alaska Press Club, which is an independent journalism organization in the state. Club President Kathleen McCoy said the $20,000 received from Universal roughly doubles the organization&#8217;s annual revenues.

&#8220;We&#8217;ll spread this around and try to put this toward training for journalists around the state,&#8221; McCoy said.

The Alaska Press Club wasn&#8217;t part of the complaint against Universal, but John McKay suggested they receive settlement money as part of a compromise that would benefit Alaska journalism.

AboveAlpha

 

Oh well, it's not true., but it must base on some truth in other real abduction cases.

But there are few points the movie made is pretty interesting. The aliens want to take the role of savior and be God.

This should give us hints what the alien's true identity is.

And the horror the abductees had to go through.

The alien is doing experiments on human, this, you admit it's true.