Sanders Coup Attempt Against Biden

Maybe. Campaigns lie. Especially Trump's.

So, the candidate who is promising to raise taxes on them all is the one they're supporting?
So, Trump is the candidate of the working American people... which explains why he is 12% behind in national polls, huh?
Dear, he has you fooled. Trump is the candidate of the top 1%. Has always been. Why do you suppose his tax cuts for the top 1% are permanent while the much smaller ones for the middle class are temporary?

No, I don't. Once again, you've been duped by fake news and low-quality, biased polls. Will you ever learn? LOL

From 538, taking into account quality and methodology:

 

Dude, are you seriously claiming that the Wall Street, uber rich Hollywood celebrities and the Silicon Valley, the swamp, the lobbyists, the billionaire class support and donate to Trump? Has Bloomberg dropped $100 million on Trump's campaign, or was it Biden's campaign? Has Jeff Bezos's Washington Post had one good word to say about Trump, or has it been acting as Biden's PAC?

I mean... please tell me you were just kidding, cause I am beginning to worry about you LOL

 

The swamp? Trump *is* the swamp, and yes, his tax cuts earned him a lot of goodwill with billionaires, Bloomberg being an exception, for other reasons. Bezos is another exception given Trump's war against Amazon. But that's pretty much it. Who do you suppose Elan Musk supports? What about the Koch Brothers?

I'm not begging to worry about you, I'm already very worried about you.

You are in for a nasty surprise circa November 6th when vote count finishes... unless Trump's buddies in the courts help him steal the election (which as I said is a distinct possibility).

You're all excited about some registration data for Wisconsin... while Wisconsin's average polls, again with the methodology and quality take, show Biden ahead by +7.1, way above the 2016 error so even if the polls were as faulty as they were in 2016 (Newsflash, they aren't) Biden will still win Wisconsin. But hey, if it comforts you until the inevitable let down, you can dream about this mail-in ballot supposed advantage. Michigan, Biden is up by 8%. And if you haven't noticed, he passed Trump in Georgia. GEORGIA!!! Comfortable lead in Nevada. North Carolina now trending blue by 2%. And like I showed to you, Florida too although that one is tricky, Biden needs to find some leeway with Hispanics especially Cuban-Americans. But anyway, at the very least, it's competitive.

Biden remains 5% ahead in Pennsylvania. Do you know what are the odds for Trump of winning the EC if he loses Pennsylvania? 2%. But Biden has many other avenues to 270 even if he loses Pennsylvania.

Is it impossible for Trump to win? No. Nathan Silver gives him 12%. But Biden's odds are 88%. And no, Nathan will NOT repeat the same mistakes of 2016. He learned from them and adjusted the samples (e.g. more white males without a college degree, more rural whites).

 

You forgot the wall street, it's lopsided, it donates 90% to Biden. The billionaires of Silicon Valley and ultra-rich Hollywood celebrities are worse, probably 99% of their donations go to Biden. The entire swamp, every lobbyist, every Washington political dynasty supports Biden, Silicon Valley social monopolies resort to outright censorship to drag him over the line.

Dude, Biden personifies swamp, he has spent 47 years in it, never leaving, not even for a day. Jeez.

Oh, I almost forgot... Nate Silver, 538, the clueless leftist moron who made a complete idiot out of himself in 2016, right? That's who you're listening to, besides the fake news media of course. Got it and this does explain a lot


This Nate Silver, right?

 

That is INCREDIBLE!

While it was only being tested in China I am skeptical enough to believe that adverse results would have been concealed for political purposes but having those results replicated in Brazil is significant since it corroborates that there is an effective vaccine that could be made available globally next year.

While I have little doubt that there will be delays here for various reasons that does not impact other nations from taking advantage of the Sinovac vaccine. My assumption is that China will favor other BRICS nations and their closest neighbors and trading partners first and foremost. The Chinese are canny enough to offer it to 3rd world nations in exchange for natural resources and access to markets.

To put it bluntly the incompetence and greed motives here in America have provided an opportunity for China to gain even more Global Influence if they choose to do so.

 

The LIES uttered by YOUR wannabe Fascist-in-Chief only feed the Confirmation Bias of his supporters but have ZERO factual basis.

 

Utterly FALSE!

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/23/early-voting-numbers-swing-states-431363

 

Focus buddy, raw data is your friend, obsolete one week old "modeled support" garbage in a left wing fake news publication is not

Here comes raw data: ( I took a liberty to add arrows at the bottom to help you focus on what's important, I hope it helps)


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-elections/michigan-results





https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-elections/wisconsin-results

 

I like education, so I don't mind educating my fellow posters, here.
You may want to explore this link:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michel...-backing-donald-trumps-campaign/#6b8a3b857989

The above is a sample, but Trump has about 97 billionaire donors. Sure, there are billionaires donating to Biden too, but it's way more complex than your condescending and sarcastic posts would suggest.

You'll see billionaires donating to the Trump campaign, from all industries: oil of course, banking, hedge funds, construction, real state, casinos, and gasp, software...

While you go to Forbes you may want to read other articles there, such as, how Tech companies will be in trouble under Biden... How even China paid Trump... LOL. Not his campaign, of course, that's illegal, but his business.

You may want to realize the CHANGE in behavior for these billionaires, from 2016 to now (like I said, his tax cuts got him some friends):

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michel...didnt-give-to-his-2016-campaign/#760cf9044340

Look at this, too, only the best people:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michel...nd-an-alleged-metoo-perpetrator/#5aee79e869f8

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Swamp: Trump thrives in corruption, while Biden was for his entire Senate terms, the US senator with the smallest net worth, just a middle-class guy. Lately the same Forbes will tell you in detail how he got to a net worth of 9 million dollars (not impressive, smaller than mine, by the way, and not unheard of for someone who worked for 47 years) mostly from real state valuation, book sales, and speaking fees; nothing corrupt).

Oh, by the way, the Yahoo/YouGov recent poll showed that the majority of voters considers Trump more corrupt than Biden. I guess the Hunter thing didn't stick, like I predicted (look at my posting history and the 10 reasons I mentioned for why it wouldn't work for the Trump campaign).

As for Nate Silver, you are mistaken. First, the national polls did get Hillary's total votes within the margin of error. Second, and I followed it at the time, Nate was one of the few that still insisted that while the models pointed to a Hillary victory, it wasn't a given and Trump still retained a significant opportunity of more than 30%. He said several times that 30% wasn't nothing and it could happen. He did point to the narrowing of her advantage. Basically the model failed in the Rust belt out of 77,000 total votes in 3 states. That's not exactly the egg on the face you are portraying. Sure, they got it wrong, so did everybody else, but let's say, Nate got it less wrong than others.

And this time, he has refined his methodology. We'll see who will end up with egg on the face. I predict that it will be you (unless Trump steal the elections with the help of his buddies Kavanaugh and Barrett, which is perfectly possible and even predictable).

I'll tell you what: I'll concede to being wrong and will eat crow if Trump wins fair and square. If he wins by challenging the mail-in votes and stopping the count, then it's not winning, it's stealing, and I won't concede.

Let's see in a few days if you're man enough to concede in case YOU are wrong.

I certainly hope you are right regarding no fears of Trump cheating/stealing the election but I do hope you are wrong in your optimistic dismissal of polls and reliance on voter registration to count your chicken.

Have a nice day.

 

That's exactly true. India and Brazil made agreements with China to make the CoronaVac. Even Russia did although they are still trying with their Sputinik V (and running into stability trouble with it). And yes, China is looking at several other countries.

We won't have the CoronaVac here, of course, because with his WuFlu and Chinese Virus rally talking points, Trump won't want a Chinese solution. But it may very well end up being the best vaccine, given its true and proven method of inactivated virus. It's a pity that politics and geopolitics will prevent us from benefitting. I even consider going abroad to get it for me and my wife.

 

Learning from fake news media I see.... and getting caught, just like them You're way too modest about Biden's support by the super rich

Biden's billionaires: Super rich back Dem despite pledge to raise their taxes

The list of billionaires supporting Biden is currently much longer than the one of those backing President Trump

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-billionaire-supporters-vow-raise-taxes

Lest we forget the swamp, the lobbyists, the ruling class, the Wall Street, Hollywood, they are all in bed with Biden

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

So YOU are CHERRY PICKING from a DIFFERENT "fake news" source NOW?

Are you even aware that far HIGHER numbers of Republicans are voting FOR Biden than Dems are voting for your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief?

Did it ever occur to YOU that Republicans who are using Mail-in ballots and Early voting are doing so BECAUSE they are OPPOSED to your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief's incompetent MISHANDLING of the Covid Pandemic?

What is marked on the OUTSIDE of the ballot does NOT equate to what is INSIDE the ballot.

 

It sould also be available in Brazil then! No need for you to go abroad.

 

Trump:
94% job approval among republicans
https://news.gallup.com/poll/322310/trump-job-rating-steady-mood-indicators-tick.aspx

skyrocketing support among black and Hispanics,
strong support among traditionally democrat-voting union members (no, not union leadership, union members)

Good luck, you're going to need it.

 

If you're right, how come this doesn't show in the national polls figures?

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHA!

NOTHING in your link supports that load of bovine excrement!

Furthermore your link establishes that your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief is on the SAME track as Carter and Bush sr.

Better keep that luck of yours because YOU need it far more than I do.

 

Fake news commissioning these polls aren't, paying for results contradicting their narrative that Trump is losing.

This is just one pollster's opinion, right or wrong
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/10/another-pollster-sees-a-trump-win/

And here is an interesting view from the ground, in PA by a reporter who is clearly not right wing/Trump fan, published in the NY Times to boot.

Can We Trust Pennsylvania’s Polls?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/27/...l?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

 

Dude, I gave you raw data, not some garbage polls, two posts later you've forgotten the lesson I taught you,
look at the raw data...which shows that Biden is underperforming in early voting in all battleground states.

 

Oh, so Forbes, a right-wing publication, is MSM but Fox is not. Gotcha. Like I said, I've already acknowledged that Biden has billionaire donors too so I don't see why you're going out of your way to show me that. And you can't claim fake news. These contributions are public information and verifiable. The Fake News trope is getting old. Verifiable FACTS aren't Fake News, dear. You call them that, when they are not convenient. It doesn't make them any less true.

Again, Trump *is* the swamp. Of these two candidates, the one who had to settle with plaintiffs he defrauded at Trump University and the one who got slapped judicial restrictions on his corrupt Trump Foundation was not the one named Joseph R. Biden Jr.

Now, the thing is, LoneStarGal seems to get a bit upset that we're not on topic. She is a polite lady so instead of complaining, she praises us when we do post on topic. But we're hijacking and derailing this thread, and by the way we won't ever agree, so I think we should stop this, and just allow the events next week to unfold and show who is right, you or me.

 

You are posting OUTLIERS because that is ALL you have now!

Here is RAW DATA that you CANNOT deny!

In every election with HIGHER turnout the Dems did BETTER than the GOP!

The RAW DATA is ALL pointing at RECORD levels of voting.

YOUR wannabe Fascist-in-Chief is DESPERATE to SUPPRESS the COUNTING because he already KNOWS that he is LOSING and unless he can ILLEGALLY stop the counting of our votes he is in for a monumental DRUBBING next week.

That is the LESSON of the RAW DATA that YOU refuse to acknowledge.

 

I'm American and I live in the United States. I post a lot about the Brazilian situation because I went there several times in collaboration missions between two of their research institutes and two of their universities, and my university. Due to these missions I learned Portuguese and I love their country, so I keep following it with interest and I keep in touch with my colleagues there.

But yes, I do consider going there to take the CoronaVac if they manage to bring down their president's opposition to it.

 

That's what I keep telling @Borat but he doesn't get it. Not to forget, the difference between Republicans and Democrats in his data are cancelled by the 20% and 22% of independents and these are favoring Biden in high percentage, this time.

Not to forget, like I told him, I just saw this morning in a newsletter I get (so no links right now as it is a newsletter with bullet points and no links and I can't link to my own mailbox) that the Democratic Party in Wisconsin is advising their registered voters to vote in person due to Trump's attempts to invalidate their mail-in votes.

Anyway, poor LoneStarGal, we've hijacked her thread. I propose that we take this discussion elsewhere, the same applies to my vaccine posts. People can join my State of the Vaccines thread for that, it was pinned by the moderators to the top of the Coronavirus Pandemic Discussions sub-forum, and I guess the stats and polls and Biden v. Trump chances have various threads people can go to. This thread here is for Sanders v. Biden discussions, progressives v. moderate Democrats, and we're barely discussing the topic (I did try, a few times). Sorry, @LoneStarGal .

 

Depends on who turns out, so far the youth (below 30%) and minority turnouts leave a lot to be desired for the Dems. That actually confirms the fact that the raw early voting data shows Democrats badly underperforming in all battleground states compared to 2016 and outright behind the Republicans in Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio.

 

You have not acknowledged that Biden has way more (50% more) billionaires than Trump, that Biden, not Trump has spent his entire life in the swamp, that Wall Street donates 90% to Biden, not Trump, that the swamp, the billionaires, the Wall Street, the lobbyists, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, swampy political dynasties like the Bushes - they are all staunchly in Biden's camp, not Trump's.

All the warmongers, all the elites and ruling classes who have been dividing the country for 50 years, stealing from the country, destroying the middle class, exponentially increasing the gap between the rich and the rest, shipping jobs to China - they all support Biden, cause he is one of them, not Trump.

 

Now you are just pulling crap from your nether regions again.

The ONLY voting bloc that YOUR wannabe Fascist-in-Chief has any winning margin is white males without a college education. Speaking of whites without a college education it is also the ONLY voting bloc that will DECLINE in size by 2.3% in 2020 compared to where it was in 2016. That is 3.5 million FEWER votes for a NET LOSS of 1.2 million overall. NOWHERE else has he made any significant GAINS to OFFSET those losses.

You are BRAGGING about those 3 states where the COMBINED 77k stole the EC for your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief primarily via that demographic. Even assuming ALL of those voters are still around that is STILL over a million votes that he does NOT have any longer.

He CANNOT win if ALL of the votes are COUNTED.