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Sandra Bland's family 'infuriated' at video of her arrest

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  1. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    If you have no criminal record, you can request a police ride along and you can see exactly what people will use as weapons on the police. Cigarettes are a pretty common item to use as a weapon. If she was using a box cutter knife in her car, would that make a difference?

    The police officer uses what is called command presence to try to get the lady to comply. It is often seen as being overly aggressive but if someone has a potential weapon in hand, saying 'pretty please' isn't going to work.

    In the beginning of the tape, you can see the officer was pretty decent to another motorist who he gave a warning for speeding. He didn't seem to have a mad on.

    It is stupid to give attitude to a police officer during a traffic stop. Be a good person and you will get off with a warning most of the time. Pulling attitude will always get you the worst outcome that is possible.

    I have been on several police civilian oversight committees and there is absolutely nothing the officer did wrong. That was strictly by the book. There is no way the officer will ever be disciplined for that stop, nor should he be.
     
    Lee S, Jul 22, 2015
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ex-senator's wife charged with assaulting police, using lit cigarette as weapon


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    http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/0522-maygan
     
    Channe, Jul 22, 2015
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  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    when cops are being jerks and caught on video and a person dies because of it, they should be fired... period
     
    FreshAir, Jul 22, 2015
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    yes and then proceeded to disobey the police officer, resist arrest and kick the police officer. Thug mentality. Is there any reason she didnt just act civil towards the officer?
     
    AlphaOmega, Jul 22, 2015
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  5. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First off, she hung herself. That's not his fault. She chose to end her life. Secondly - a lit cigarette has been used as a weapon against officers before. Quit apologize for defiant thug suspects.
     
    Channe, Jul 22, 2015
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    Ronstar, Jul 22, 2015
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    your really trying too hard to defend this cop being a jerk imo

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    FreshAir, Jul 22, 2015
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  8. Ronstar

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    again, calling her a thug.

    all black people with a spine are thugs huh?

    no, but this cop was a power-tripping thug.
     
    Ronstar, Jul 22, 2015
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  9. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and that it happened in Canada matters why ? it's obvious you're losing the argument so you're now deflecting.
     
    Channe, Jul 22, 2015
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  10. Ronstar

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    im not the one calling her a thug, just cause she is black and stands up to police abuse.
     
    Ronstar, Jul 22, 2015
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  11. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, any person who refuses to put out a lit cigarette when asked by an officer then proceeds to verbally and physically assault the officer is a thug. I personally don't care she hung herself - that was her choice. I feel bad for the officer who had to deal with her thug behavior.

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    If you can tell me what this officer did that was wrong, I will concede. But you can't. You just want thugs to have a free right to do and say whatever they want.
     
    Channe, Jul 22, 2015
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    she was visibly stressed, the cop knew this because he asked and she was honest about it... that upset the cop as he took it personal and went on the attack

    the cop was very unprofessional and made a standard traffic stop a nightmare....... he is supposed to be the professional here, I expect better from our officers

    when someone is visibly upset, you do not try to antagonize them.... common sense

    oh she is upset, let me see if I can do something else to get her really really upset....

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    FreshAir, Jul 22, 2015
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  13. Ronstar

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    wow, you call her a "thug", twice.

    so much for the 1st Amendment. You have every right to curse out and criticise cops. It doesn't make you a "thug".

    she did nothing that deserves such an attack.

    seems like black people that refuse to sing & dance for white people are now all "thugs", for some.
     
    Ronstar, Jul 22, 2015
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    There has been rash of strange/poor police activities. It's a rash because we notice it, but there is less crime.
    I just wonder how much of this is tied to an emboldened new form of federalism style government.

    I am with the school of thought that these cops are driven into a culture of exhibiting hyper-action (less thinking) behavior. Once they have a 'reason' to be forcefully in small matters they loose a grip of the bigger picture. Even to the point of using tasers, pepper spray, or removing their handgun from the holster (for possible use) in pretense to the civilian attacking the officer. In other words, as a civilian we are nearly always considered partially lethal without action. The officer is nearly always in defensive mode according to precedent.
    A real mind bender if you have been, or witnessed, improperly orchestrated police arrests. Sometimes it is difficult to see what is really happening, but we can normally understand that there are other methods of handling the situation.

    The real point is that as a civilian you don't have as much leverage, so remember your social/civil skills. There is a high probability that the officer will only be utilizing their crime/policy skills.
     
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    No, anyone who refuses to put out a lit cigarette when asked by an officer is a thug with a dangerous weapon, period. The only people who care about this thug woman's race is people like you.

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    An upset and agitated person is most likely to use something like a lit cigarette as a weapon.
     
    Channe, Jul 22, 2015
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    only a jerk cop would think someone smoking a cigarette in a stressful situation was a reason to escalate a situation

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    the FBI stated that the police force has been infiltrated by white supremacists. this is another example of racist white cop treating black people as less than human. there was also another murder by a cop in cincinnati, http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/21/us/cincinnati-police-shooting/index.html samuel debose was executed, there is a pattern here and as that black man who was arrested for putting up a flier quoted the "police and kkk are targeting black people as the devil"
     
    Esau, Jul 22, 2015
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    Ronstar, Jul 22, 2015
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    thats a given, the cops will do any and everything to cover their own. they have a no-snitch policy which is kinda like how the mafia operates, the police are no different, you have good and crooked cops like the mafia have good and crooked gangstas.
     
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    FreshAir, Jul 22, 2015
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    to be fair, black thugs in the hood also have a "no snitch" policy.
     
    Ronstar, Jul 22, 2015
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    Well, as a conservative I have to agree with the libs on this one. The cop escalated this entire affair for no reason. We are not circus animals and they are not animal trainers. We should not be required to jump through hoops for their entertainment.
    A lit cigarette of a person sitting in a car while LEO stands over you with a gun in their possession is considered a weapon? That's a friggin joke.
    I applauded her lambasting of that uptight cop through the entire event. He deserved it.

    If she wants to be upset for being pulled,over for a bogus infraction that's her right. There is no law I'm aware of that citizens must smile and wave party balloons at cops being dicks.
     
    EggKiller, Jul 22, 2015
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    yes, she had every right to call out the cop, as a power-hungry thug.

    thats what he was, that's how he acted.
     
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