Sandy Hook Commission Calls For Government Crackdown On Homeschools

This is a false statement made up by generalizations.

For starters, let me say that there are benefits to homeschooling, but there are some drawbacks as well. Depending on how the home school is organized in the city or county or state and depending on external factors, it really depends on the facts. For instance, I bet if I take the top 10$ of t he call in public schools, they would do just as well or even better than home schooled students. By contrast, if the child is in a traditional home school and not in a coop home school, their social skills world probably be weaker than those who attend publc schools because home schooled children have not gotten the experience to deal with different people and different personalities. Sheltering them is not always the best solution when having a child .

The point is that whether a child goes to public, private, or home school depends on what is best for the child. Home school, like public or private school, is not the panacea that one would want for their child.

 

Don't know because that specific detail has not been made available yet. This is a proposal made by the commission during one of their sessions.

 

Since there are many states that do not test homeschool students with standardized tests, your blanket statement simply cannot be proven. At all. If you want to say that some homeschooled students perform better than some public school students, that's fine with me because it's very likely a true statement.

If you put a poorly performing student in a private school (homeschooling is usually out of the question), what makes you think they would do any better?

Yeah. I haven't had much contact with them, but younger daughter ran into a clutch of them when she went off to college. And "different" is the polite word.

State Boards of Education usually set the cutoff for AYP. The tests are created by experts who review the state curriculum and come up with the tests. Now, since everyone here who supports homeschoolers just falls all over themselves telling us just how smart and well educated they are, why would taking a state standardized test be any big deal?

 

Prove it then.

 

It's YOUR claim, post the ones that give a "free ride".

 

Guess I missed something. When they rank students, what's the ranking based on? What they didn't "truly" learn or something?

I agree with your observation that many students simply don't care about getting an education. In fact, I was one of those students way back when and my parents through fits because of it. Fortunately, my attitudes changed somewhere along the line, and in no small part because my parents never gave into my laziness and a BB coach who helped "inspire" me into shape. Unfortunately, in todays society, there are too few responsible parents and to little meaningful discipline in schools. Well, unless you count a 3rd grading being suspended for sharing her lunch box goodies with a friend.....now that's what I call teaching a valuable lesson.

 

How's that cheating scandal going down there in Georgia? How many teachers and administrators were indicted under RICO law?

 

Blue, don't hold your breath. Don't think research is grizz's strong suite.

 

I gave you a homeschool-friendly site that did the rankings for me (and you). And, "free ride" usually means that parents have to do little more than notify the schools if they are homeschooling. Beyond that, little or nothing. If you don't like my link, find one of your own. I'm not here to do your homework.

 

Given the poor state of US public schools, I think this post is a joke.

 

Taxcutter says:
Bureaucrats would pervert the standards to protect the unionized government-runs schools.

 

Read all about it at AJC.COM. Here's today's story so far.

Georgia doesn't have teacher unions, but when high state officials were instrumental in working with other states to devise standards (now called Common Core), the Tea Party idjuts decided it was all an Obama plot and commenced lying their heads off about it, thereby scaring a bunch of our wimp politicians who dance to their tune.

 

Friendly, you said "fee ride", which states grant a free ride? It's YOUR claim I have no obligation to prove it for you and have no obligation to look at each state law, you obviously should know which states do this as it is YOUR CLAIM.

 

Yes, not so good for public education

Student says Atlanta teacher gave her test answers

Like Alabama's AEA you have the GEA which in effect is a union.

 

wrong.

 

Taxcutter says:
Common Core was a fairly good idea torpedoed by the fact it got politicized.
Go back and take out the politicized stuff and it would probably fly.

 

Lanza wasn't homeschooled until age 16. Not a good argument against homeschooling, IMHO. He started college soon after.

 

It's based on comparison with the students who they used to standardize it. Standardized tests for the most part are not built on objective standards, they are built on comparisons. Please study about how standardized tests are made. It's almost as bad as laws and sausage. For the most part, the ranking is really based on reading comprehension.

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That's wierd, because when I taught in Georgia, I was a member of the GEA, which is a teacher's union. Now, we didn't have collective bargaining or striking rights, but we were still a union.

 

Now I'm really confused. Are you saying math and science aren't a part of the testing criteria and it's simply a reading comprehension test?
PS: I'm interested in this topic and not trying to be sarcastic or belittling by asking the question. You seem to have some first hand knowledge, so......

 

If they go through with this, it is going to end up in court so F**King quick it will make your head spin.

 

True, the union in WI openly admitted union 1st, not kids or education. So, considering the money laundering scheme democrat's have with unions, it's safe to assume they too are putting unions 1st and education somewhere down the list.

 

I'm saying that if you can't read well, you won't do well on the test, even the math portion and even more the science portion.

I've taken a graduate class on testing. From it, I became very cynical on the subject of testing, at least the way we do it. Theoretically, you could make a criterion referenced test which tests the subject matter. We don't usually do that, we usually do norm-referenced tests, which just rank the students who took the test. They rarely provide much information on what the students actually know.

 

I wonder if the commission called for more secrecy in government concerning school shootings or more transparency.

 

Well, at least in Georgia, especially Atlanta.

It is an association of people in a particular field (teaching). It has no negotiating power, but it can and does submit the views of teachers in that group. That's about it.

Since the GEA can't bargain or strike, or do any of the 99% of other things unions do, that ain't what I'd call a union.

It was politicized by those on the right, especially the Tea Party types. And yes, it does lay out a reasonable curriculum, at least for the grades I looked at (K-5). I really don't know how anybody could object, at least as far as the content.

 

For the first time ever, and probably the last, I agree with you.

Some of the stupidest kids and some of the stupidest parents I've known were participants in home schooling. Really dumb people shouldn't home school, but they do and they are everywhere. Hideous grammar is the first clue. Hideous spelling is the next clue. I remember seeing a sign a home schooled kid had written. The kid was 15. He was offering free kittens. The kittens were winged. I laughed as hard as I've laughed in my adult life when I realized the kid meant "weaned".

And just so you know, it has nothing to do with red/right wing states. Try a home schooling forum where people proudly state their locations. In my forum travels, the seriously worst offender in home schooling was in a true blue state. Her spelling and sentence structure made you want to gouge out your eyes and rip off your fingernails. Your continual spew at the right enhances my opinion of "blue". It doesn't make blue look intelligent.