Sandy Hook- It's the guns fault, it's always the guns fault.

The People are The People whether they are organized in a militia or not.

“‘A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.’ Negroes don't realize this, that they are within their constitutional rights to own a rifle, to own a shotgun. When the bigoted white supremacists realize that they are dealing with Negroes who are ready to give their own lives in defense of life and property, then these bigoted Whites will change their whole strategy and their whole attitude.” Malcom X, By Any Means Necessary, Malcom X, Betty Shabazz and Pathfinder Press, 1992. p. 11.

 

You appeal to ignorance. The People are the Militia; you are either well regulated or unorganized.

 

lol why don't you bring up some more George Mason quotes bud. Its an individual right

 

Malcolm X was far from ignorant. Ditto Laurence Tribe.

“The city council right now is considering a law that's designed to make it illegal for you to walk with a rifle. Why just now? As long as it's been legal to own a rifle, why all of a sudden does the great white father want to pass a law making rifle carrying illegal? Because of you; he's afraid of you getting rifles. Every law that they pass is aimed at you.” Malcom X, Malcom X, By Any Means Necessary, Malcom X, Betty Shabazz and Pathfinder Press, 1992. p. 91.\

 

A gun is an inanimate object. That's a right-wing strawman made up to escape their share of the responsibility. The gunman pulled the trigger, of course. But those who allowed him to have that gun share part of the blame. The right-wing politicians. As well as the NRA, the gun manufacturer's, the right wing ideologue's in the Supreme Court, the gun lobbyists, ....

 

it cannot be an individual rights issue simply because our Second Amendment specifically claims it is about the security of a free State, not the whole and entire concept of individual rights.

 

You confuse the concept of natural rights which are recognized in State Constitutions and available via due process, and our Second Amendment.

 

Again, that part is the prefatory clause which has no effect on the operative clause "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed".
Its an individual right.

As to George Mason: https://www.azquotes.com/author/9577-George_Mason/tag/second-amendment

You might want to look a bit more closely at the person you're quoting you assume agrees with you.

"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them"

http://www.madisonbrigade.com/g_mason.htm

^ Mason was a fan of natural rights, and the BOR is based on Mason's other work: The Virginia declaration of rights, also a natural rights type document.

 

You still appeal to ignorance, even with that view. The People are the Militia. There are no individual persons referenced outside of their official capacity in our Second Amendment.

 

And, again, every other time "the people" is used in the BOR its to indicate an individual right.

You're wrong, don't be so salty about it.

 

You would be right, if our Constitution was Implied instead of Express. Our Second Amendment is clearly about the security of a free State, not individual rights, which are covered in State Constitutions and available via Due Process.

 

Again, you're citing the prefatory clause of that sentence as the operative clause. You are applying incorrect rules of grammar to the sentence, no wonder you're confused.
Is English not your first language? Maybe that's where the confusion stems from?

 

You simply appeal to ignorance. The second clause must follow the first clause simply Because, our federal Constitution is Express and not Implied.

 

Malcolm X recognized that every effort to disarm the American people was always a deadly threat to their liberty and security.
The FF clearly agreed with him.

 

Never said that it didnt come after, but a prefatory clause has no effect on an operative clause to modify, limit, or expand.

 

Persons have a natural right to defense of self and property. It is recognized in State Constitutions and available via Due Process not our Second Amendment.

 

It must mean something since it is express not implied.

 

It means what a prefatory clause means

 

it says it is about the security of a free State not the whole and entire concept of individual rights.

 

And yet it remains a prefatory clause

 

it is express not implied.

 

Expressly a prefatory clause, yes.

 

it states our Second Amendment is not about individual rights but the security of a free State.

 

So we agree, Adam Lanza and his mom share the responsibility of what happened!

 

Anyone who claims such is an enemy of the Constitution. It is a rationalization to dismiss the parts of the Constitution you find inconvenient.

The Constitution is law. It does not "change and grow" with the times. That is what the Amendment process is for.