Saudi Arabia executes 37 people, crucifying one, for terror-related crimes

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  1. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Saudi Arabia has not re-written the Qur'an.

    There are lots of "made for westerners, non-Muslim versions" out there.
    But the religion cannot change one word from God.
     
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    Boycott, hell no. sell them nuclear technology and provide help with their war on yemen- no to that also.
     
  3. truth and justice

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    It's the translation from classical Arabic (a dead language) that is taught to students such as in the Noble Qur'an, financed and distributed by Saudi Arabia, translated by Muhammed Khan and Hilali. Verse 8:60:
    "And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war (tanks, planes, missiles, artillery, etc.) to threaten the enemy of Allah......."

     
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    LOLOL

    This has absolutely nothing to do with what you are claiming.

    Sahih International: And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.
     
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    I did not add the words "(tanks, planes, missiles, artillery, etc.)" to the translation.

    This is the translation that is authorized and financed by the Saudi government. This is exactly what I claimed. Which bit are you too slow to understand
     
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    Nobody added those words to the translation.

    You claimed it was re-written.
    If anything they are adding modern day words to an explanation, without changing the written word.

    And the comment I made that brought this on was that they are not going to re-write the religion, referring to the evil contained,
    All this does is promote it in modern terms.
     
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    LOL Make up your mind! You write "nobody added those words" then you write "if anything they are adding modern words". Muhammed Khan and Hilali added those words, the translation funded and approved by the Saudi government! The Quar'an is translated from Classical Arabic, a language the majority of Muslims cannot speak, read or comprehend
     
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    LOLOL

    Modern day words to an explanation.
    They are not re-writing the Qur'an.
     
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    The Qur'an is not being taught, it is the translation that is taught worldwide. Which bit don't you get? And the most propagated translation is the Noble Qur'an, a Saudi government backed Wahibbi translation.
     
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    Maybe the US should make more billion deals with KSA ... and maybe Trump should crawl the Saudis and her money even more into the butt.

    And these are the supposedly good Muslims. Interesting ... if the Iranians had done this here, then the outcry would be great and the thread would be 150 pages long now...
     
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    You just don't understand do you.
    All you did was prove what I said.
    BTW, the Noble has been around for a while, I have it and use it.
     
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    Since murder convictions do get overturned after multiple appeals, by supporting cutting appeals, how many innocent people are you cool with the government murdering?
     
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    I think they can keep the number down pretty low.
    Besides these overturned convictions for the most part are not because they are innocent, but because they cannot convict them 20 years later.
     
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    You are using the Saudi Wahibbi translation that is aimed at extremists such as Daesh and terrorists promoted by Saudi Arabia.

    And again you don't understand. The Noble Quor'an is not The Quor'an. The Quor'an is written in classical Arabic that the majority of Muslims cannot read or comprehend. All the translations are interpretations ie the Quor'an has been re-written in a manner that the translator wants to propagate. Imams then add a different spin on the message to their congregation
     
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    So it isnt ok to put to death extremists akin to terrorists forming killing cells but its ok to apply lethal injection or electricution to US death row prisoners at a rate about 25 per year.
    Is that double standards or have I missed something?
     
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    Total fail.
    You are talking in circles.
    The top 5 translations are
    Noble, ( I prefer this one because it is in all the mosques)
    Achmed Ali
    Yousaf Ali
    Shakir
    Pitchcall.

    I didn't read your whole whabbie article, mainly because it doesn't interest me.
    But none of it has anything to do with my original comment.
    They are not re-writing Islam.

    Just because you can't seem to understand this, I will try again.

    There are lots of made for American versions, these are not accredited versions.
    You are speaking of a whabbie extremist version, not a re-writing, but an added explanation for extremists.
    This also is not accredited.
    They may be using Noble for their base, but it is not the Noble Qur'an.
     
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    In the eyes of the law, they are innocent.

    And you haven’t given a number. How many innocent people are you cool with the government murdering?
     
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    Not much more than a couple hundred.
    Depends on how many are charged.
     
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    And when the government can be shown to have murdered an innocent person, would you be okay with supporters of such a policy standing trial and being executed for said murder?
     
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    It depends on the circumstances.
     
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    About the same number I'm okay with spending 10 years in prison.
     
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    Which is? Give a round number?
     
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    Interesting conclusion ...

    So it's OK if someone is crucified in Saudi Arabia, as in the Middle Ages or in antiquity ... because he is or should be a terrorist?
    You also know that all of them are from the Shiite minority in Saudi Arabia and that it smells like the terrorist accusation is a lie?

    But OK, if Iran, on the other hand, executes 37 out of the local Sunni minority because they are supposed to be terrorists, is that OK for you as well?
     
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    It's Ok if Shittes or Sunni's are executed.
     
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    How many are you okay with spending life in prison before being exonerated? Give a round number.
     

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