Saudi Press: U.S. Blew Up World Trade Center To Create ‘War On Terror’

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  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    I hold an advanced degree in Particle Physics and I was an Assistant Professor at MIT were I developed Multiversal Models with a group.

    I know what I am talking about.

    On another thread on this forum a member proposed that Thermite was used to demo the towers.

    I provided a detailed chemical and mathematical analysis that proved it wasn't.

    You can find this under my posting history.

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  2. truth and justice

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    You are completely wrong. Without the fuel there would have been no melting of any beams. What ever "melting" that would have occurred in those few milliseconds of impact would have been on the microscopic scale - just like a hammer hitting a block of metal - a microscopic piece of that block will melt at the time of the production of the (high temperature) spark. It was the ignition of fuel that would have caused any melting of beams. Any beams that were directly hit by the plane would have snapped before any melting had time to occur
     
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    Upon impact many of the support beams were INSTANTLY vaporized.

    Ever see what a super high velocity impact of Copper will do when delivered by a shaped charge rocket warhead will do to even the most dense and toughest armor?

    Within a millisecond the impact of the now molten copper which due to the kinetic energy transfer of the shaped charge detonation has heated the Copper to such a high temp. that the molten Copper....INSTANTLY vaporizes a hole in the armor and penetrates the tank or armored vehicle killing everyone inside.

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  4. truth and justice

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    A plane is a weak hollow tube that crumples on collision absorbing much of the ke. It is not a " super high velocity..... delivered by a shaped charge rocket warhead"

    Your addition of "even the most dense and toughest armor?" weakens your argument as this armor provides greater resistance than the web like structure of the twin towers. The greater the resistance the higher the friction resulting in the higher heat transfer
     
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    Yessir, I am familiar with your braggadocio.

    Even, maybe especially, MIT professors are very capable of inaccurate and misleading statements.
     
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    The twin towers had a special aluminum skin developed by Alcoa ... somewhat similar to the skin of an aircraft.
     
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    This post demonstrates that MIT professors are very much capable of sophistry.
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    I gave you the example of a shaped charge detonation which causes a stream of Copper to instantly vaporize a hole right through the strongest Military armor.

    That was just COPPER vaporizing heavy composite Military armor and for some reason you think that those Aluminum skinned aircraft weighing hundreds of tons traveling at over 500 miles per hour when they hit the towers would not vaporize some steel beams????

    It happened instantly upon impact.

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    The aircraft were traveling at over 500 mph.....now Tornado's with wind speed velocities just over 200 mph have been known to send a TWIG right through a CONCRETE WALL!!!

    You don't understand the physics involved.

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    Hey.....you just keep on making a fool of yourself.

    That's all you.

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  10. truth and justice

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    So? Does the concrete vaporize?
    Does a plane crashing into the sea cause instant vaporization of a huge amount of water which boils at around 100 Celsius ?
     
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    Concrete has a much higher vaporization point than steel.

    And...YES.....when an aircraft traveling at very high velocity impacts the ocean a great amount of sea water is vaporized.

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    Supply side economics. Supply the wealthiest with government contracts and let the rest trickle down.

     
  13. truth and justice

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    Yes, so what has your example of concrete got to do with the melting of steel?
    So, how much water is vapourised due to the ke transfer?
     
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    The amount of water vaporized is specific to the velocity and mass of the aircraft as well as the angle of impact and the hydrodynamics of the moving water as well as temp. and salinity of the water.

    As I keep trying to explain to you......the U.S. Military uses a shaped charge for the purpose of accelerating Copper to such a high velocity that upon the now Copper impacting armor the kinetic energy transfer alone causes the now molten Copper existing at an extremely high temp. to VAPORIZE a hole through even the strongest armor and the molten Copper passes right through the vaporized armor killing everyone inside the tank.

    This is basically the same thing that happened to the twin towers steel support beams.

    And EVERYTHING that was a apart of those aircraft from the aluminum hull to the jet fuel to the seats and even the PEOPLE.....when it impacted the towers transferred their total Mass x Acceleration = Force.

    You take several hundred ton's of any kind of mass and you impact it into a tower at 525 to 550 mph anything it impacts is going to VAPORIZE INSTANTLY because that amount of Kinetic Energy Transfer will raise the temperature of the matter it impacts so high that what makes up the tower will INSTANTLY become ATOMIZED as such a temperature is too high for Atomic Cohesion and too high for Molecular Chemical Bonding to remain.

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    I've already addressed your false analogy of your bullet in post 229.

    I presume you realise that parts of the aircraft were found "unvapourize". Or do you think that in your scenario, only parts of the building vaporised and not the plane in a collision - schoolboy physics newtons third law.? Your theory has too many holes and ignores the surrounding environment of the collision.
     
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    The vaporization of specific parts of the tower where the aircraft impacted are specific to the specific structure of the aircraft.

    Example....If we used a shape charge detonation to accelerate a solid Copper cylinder that cylinder will become molten and vaporize a hole in military grade armor geometrically identical to the at a millisecond or perhaps less of that Copper cylinder.

    If we do the same thing except we use a shaped charge to accelerate a HOLLOW COPPER CYLINDER....the hollow Copper Cylinder becoming molten will vaporize the area of the at one time solid structure of the casing of the Copper cylinder thus it is most likely that a RING HOLE will be created in the armor as the center area of the hollow Copper cylinder would most likely not have enough molten Copper to vaporize the armor in the center of the impact.

    This is the same with the aircraft as the the aluminum hull area when impacting the towers in very close to the same way a hollow cylinder would....will result in vaporizing those areas of the tower in line with them.

    You really do not understand either the physics or the geometry of this issue.

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    You do write a load of rubbish, actually it is you who does not understand the physics. Perhaps you should argue with NIST who stated that the only melted metal was aluminum from the plane!
     
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    Controlled demolitions make sound and your nanothermite is as real as a lightsaber you're (*)(*)(*)(*)ing done.
     
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    Oh dear. Someone has butted in and has no idea what the conversation is about!
     
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    Oh dear you're a truther, I could get into the specifics of the NIST report to prove that it was not controlled demolition but because I am not a truther (*)(*)(*)(*)**** I have common sense and I can disprove everything these morons claim about CD by stating one simple fact, a CD would have reverberated throughout the entire city and been picked up by every piece of audio/video device recording that day. So like I said you're (*)(*)(*)(*)ing done. Common sense, get some.
     
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    There was no claim of "melted steel" there were claims of molten metal, buy a dictionary molten doesn't mean melted and metal doesn't mean steel.
     
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    :roflol: Oh dear! I'm the one saying that there was no molten steel! Idiot! :roflol:
     
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    886. The real payment is to be member of WTO (3/7/2015)

    At first, I was puzzled at Skolnick’s quotation of payment - 40 Billion dollars in U.S. credits, assets, gold bullion, and currencies, both U.S. and foreign. It was more like a looting list of how the FBI and DEA rob people then a payment in secret deal. It was until several years later when the economy of China had a big leap forward. When the news reported its GDP passed over German, then passed over Japan? Now becomes the second economic power of the world.I realized the real payment China demanded in that deal was to be the host of 2008 Olympic Game and the membership of the WTO.


    I was also puzzled by this statement in article for some time. EP-3 spyplane case was a sheer business between China and US. Why other intelligence were involved? Now I know, to complete Chinese demand, US needed votes in Olympic Game Commission as well in organization of WTO.

    Probably for this reason, Skolnick wrote this article. They could not seal the black box because too many countries joined the case. We outsiders thus know there was a secret deal.
     
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    I didn't read this entire thread so forgive me if someone said this already, but do the Saudis want us to believe that we found and trained 20 Muslims to fly planes and kill themselves just so we could go to war against other Muslims and not one single whistle blower has come forward after all this time except Rosie ODonnell?
     
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    Rosie O'Donnell.....worthless as ---s on a door knob.

    Hey I found her a worthless partner...Sean Penn.

     

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