Seattle Police Faked Reports of Armed Proud Boys to Spook George Floyd Protesters

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  1. sec

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    https://www.thedailybeast.com/seatt...-george-floyd-protesters-watchdog-report-says

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    Seattle police staged sightings of Proud Boys in conversations on public police radio frequencies during last year’s protests over George Floyd’s murder, just after protesters had taken control of a police precinct and the police had left the “autonomous zone,” according to a scathing report released Wednesday by Seattle’s Office of Police Accountability (OPA)...................

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    who would ever think that a Democrat run city and Democrat utopia would put out misinformation and blame non Democrat voters?

    You just shake your head in disgust over this.

    This is what we get when we have Democrats in control
     
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    while I disagree with the methods

    cops often lie to criminals... are you suggesting this should not be allowed?

    should it be a federal offense?
     
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    Interesting that it's OK with Democrat voters when the falsely accused people are not Democrat voters
     
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    you did not answer the question

    and interesting you intentional said I supported this when I specifically said I did not
     
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    Pretty stupid move by Seattle PD, but definitely par for the course of law enforcement asinine stupidity during the summer of 2020.

    As often and consistently as reich-wing idiots were historically curb stomped and forced to run away like the cowards they are when showing their inbred idiocy on the west coast, I would think that reports of their presence would be an attractant, not a repellant, to George Floyd protesters...
     
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    I know this may be hasty judgment but I've always been skeptical of stories from the Daily Beast
     
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    I don't think anyone is claiming the cops committed a 'crime'. But surely you can agree they deliberately acted in manner designed to incite dissorder, which is contrary to their job of preserving order.

    Though, it does share some similarities to 'yelling fire in a crowded theatre' which has historically been considered a crime.
     
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    It looks like they did it for the opposite reason hoping the protesters would go home
     
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    Well you know, those pesky right wing white supremacist are the biggest terror threat in the nation....

    When garbage is high in demand but low in supply you have to fabricate some to fill the void
     
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    that is the point that Democrat voters on this forum are so willing to ignore.
     
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    They lie with the ease that most of us breaths.
     
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    It was a peaceful left wing demonstration that turned violent due to the actions of 1 man who came up with an idea that wasn't a policy made by the dems.
    But the right wingers are staging this fake reality that it was a democratic policy in order to blame the left.
     
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    Yup.

    It would've been one big summer of love hippie peacenikfest if those durned durty pigs hadn't made a few radio broadcasts about fictitious boogaloo boogeymen roaming the city.
     
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    This also just fuels the idea to defund the policy. It wouldn't surprise me that the cops are at odds with the dems.
     
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    Defunding the police is a REALLY bad idea. The dems tried that experiment, and it failed miserably.

    If you haven't learned that lesson by this point, you're hopeless.
     
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    huh?

    it was not a democratic policy; let's clear that up right now

    People did not legally vote on the policy aka democratically (please stop confusing a process with a statist political party)

    It was a Democrat ploy and raised false flags with a fake bogey man

    Democrat votes have consequences; never good
     
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    The idea that you should have social programs to help out young people instead of letting them mature into a life of crime / do something about the psychiatric care some people need / do something against addictions etc etc... it's all aimed that cops are less needed, so jails are needed less. This is what defunding the police is about. This idea is far better then just punish people harder and increase fines, and it works outside the US like a gem.
     
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    So you agree with me. Let's clear that up right now.

    Nope. These are the actions of 1 man! And that this happened in a city where democrats govern is just a pure coincidence. There is no link between the policies of the local government and the actions of that 1 man.

    All this is, is a right wing fake spin to pin whatever just ends up happening in a democratic governed city on the dems.
    For all you know, that 1 person who is responsible for his own idea is a forever Trumper refusing to acknowledge the outcome of the presidential elections.
     
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    Defunding the police is not working like a gem in the US. It's been a disaster.

    If you haven't learned that lesson at this point, you're hopeless.
     
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    I can't say that there have been social programs installed to coach early delinquents out of a life of crime / programs for more psychiatric care / anti-addiction programs to conclude that it doesn't work in the US. That's the problem.

    You need to have like an anti-addiction program running for something like 4 years, to then evaluate with how many addicts the city got after compared to before and also compare it to cities who don't do such programs. Since such things haven't happened, it's weird to see you claim that it doesn't work. It seems you argue that "defund" the police is a thing to just slash the budget of the police and see how it goes... that's not what it is about.

    On the other hand. I've seen reports about how the police preforms when they buy stuff from the military. And it ends up to be that the more the police buys that stuff, the more violent the police gets.... but the results are not getting better. So that proves that in the end, the police wasted a lot of money and only got blood on the wall to show as an improved result.
     
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    Can you bring yourself to acknowledge the fact that the defund the police movement has been a disaster, or can't you?
     
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    Disastrous socialist mayor Bill DeBlasio spent over a billion taxpayer dollars on psychiatric care pipe dreams.

    With opaque budget and elusive metrics, $850M ThriveNYC ...
    https://www.politico.com › albany › story › 2019/02/26

    Feb 27, 2019 — “Thrive NYC is really best understood as a 'tale of two cities' initiative,” said Stephen Eide, a senior fellow at the conservative Manhattan ...

    ThriveNYC website reveals $1.25B program's empty boasts
    • Jul 28, 2020 — First lady Chirlane McCray's ThriveNYC unveiled a splashy new website Monday purporting to show the $1.25 billion plan has “dramatically ...

    De Blasio's mental health initiative ThriveNYC cost $1B with ...
    https://www.nydailynews.com › news › politics › ny-ny...

    Dec 29, 2021 — $1B later and little to show for it, NYC's mental health initiative proved disappointing: 'We didn't do a good job' ... Mayor de Blasio launched a ...

    Another failed Democrat experiment.

    Three NYC subway incidents in one day blamed on mentally ill
    https://www.nydailynews.com › new-york › ny-subway...

    May 5, 2021 — Three NYC subway incidents in one day blamed on mentally ill — including 90-minute shutdown on downtown Manhattan line.

    Mentally ill attacks all too predictable as de Blasio's plans fail
    https://nypost.com › 2021/10/12 › mentally-ill-attacks-a...

    Oct 12, 2021 — Random attacks from mentally ill and homeless people are becoming common in de Blasio's New York City.
     
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    It says this was run by the wife of the major. So that's a red flag.
    But it doesn't say it's a fail at all. In fact, they don't know.

    That's the same program as above with the red flag. This reads:
    First lady Chirlane McCray’s ThriveNYC unveiled a splashy new website Monday purporting to show the $1.25 billion plan has “dramatically improved the landscape of mental health services in New York City over the last five years.” But a closer look at geocoded maps and colorful bar graphs in the “Data Dashboard” reveals missing metrics for over two-thirds of the programs, no advancements for about half of the initiatives and a major decrease in services badly needed during the COVID-19 pandemic. And there’s only six months worth of data for the nearly five-year-old program.

    So it's a succes, but half of it is probably not founded on the map with a good source. That's still half of that is founded.
    And then the article rips on the social program it couldn't give adequate service during the pandemic. Like... really? That's low.


    That's again the same social program!

    This is all and the same social program in NYC.
     
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    In bold, almost poetic! :)
    The entire OP article makes no sense to me.
     
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