Security over liberty?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by DeathStar, Feb 25, 2012.

  1. NetworkCitizen

    NetworkCitizen New Member

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    They hate us for our controlled police state!
     
  2. DeathStar

    DeathStar Banned

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    How stupid. We weren't even going 65 mph, let alone 74 like he said. State police LIE about crimes that you did so that they can STEAL from you, and have it APPEAR to be legitimate.
     
  3. hoytmonger

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    Police are allowed to lie to civilians, civilians lying to police is a crime.

    Double standard?
     
  4. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Somebody please call the:

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  5. NetworkCitizen

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    I got a "running a stop sign" ticket when I was 17...at a stop sign where I had stopped for longer than usual to ask a passenger which way to go to give him a lift home. The copper apparently saw me ....(have a black guy in the car).
     
  6. GeneralZod

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    If that is true then report the police. I have done that in the past when my home was burgled and due to police incompetence they did not arrest the criminals involved. It is a lenghty procedure (unsure with the usa version of this) but after speaking to police seniors in the complaints departments, progress was eventually resumed.
     
  7. DeathStar

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    You don't get it. There's no way The State would take our word for it over a lying cop's, even though The State is quite aware that at the end of the month, cops have to make their "quotas" (or however it's spelled) and thus will pull people over for nothing.
     
  8. DeathStar

    DeathStar Banned

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    You know what? If police are gonna STEAL from me, I figure I have the right to self-defense. I'll just (*)(*)(*)(*)ing bring a little silenced pistol and blow the (*)(*)(*)(*)ers head off if I have to. I encourage you to all do the same.

    REVOLUTION!!
     
  9. NetworkCitizen

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    Woah bud! Don't let the anger of that ticket take over your mental functions. We don't live in a safe place to display such rage!
     
  10. hoytmonger

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    Did you know the Indiana State Supreme Court made it illegal to defend yourself from police if they enter your home ILLEGALLY?

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/...sist-unlawful-entry-of-their-homes-by-police/
     
  11. JohnnyMo

    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Dane bramaged, I say, dane bramaged :frustrated::bonk:
     
  12. DeathStar

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    I thought the entire country was like that due to some recent bill passed??
     
  13. The XL

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    Yeah, cops can pretty much do whatever they want, and there is no way to combat it. It makes me sick, but there isn't much that can be done about it.
     
  14. GeneralZod

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    Be proactive and find out. If you can keep calm, explain your point of view to the 'state police'

    See where this takes you. But believing you already lost before begun, get you no where.
     
  15. hoytmonger

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    No that was the US Executive Office being allowed to hold citizens indefinitely or even assassinate them with no congressional or judicial review.
     
  16. NetworkCitizen

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    haha! Hard to confuse the two.
     
  17. DeathStar

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    I don't see anything except a perhaps bloody revolution doing the trick, as of now. Unfortunately.
     
  18. Subdermal

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    Am I the only one who doubts the veracity of this story?
     
  19. DeathStar

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    ah that's right. Well that's messed up too. But The Big Police and Military State is something that we need to oust, SOON.
     
  20. NetworkCitizen

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    When the people fear the government, you have tyranny. When the government fear the people, you have liberty.

    -I will take credit for this "unattributed" quote...thank you
     
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    No. Seems true to form..
     
  22. darckriver

    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    His "reality" is what normal humans commonly regard as the delusional, cliche-ridden realm of UF - Ultra-leftist Fantasyland. A horrible place to visit - and an even worse place to dwell. [Believe me - I once lived there :-(]
     
  23. DeathStar

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    hmm, well if being "ultra leftist" equates to "not supporting a violent, aggressive, police and military state", then I am (*)(*)(*)(*)ed sure an ultra leftist.

    But that's not what leftism is. You simply hate freedom, and don't want to admit it, so you smear ridiculous labels on people who disagree with your particular brand of authoritarian idiocy.
     
  24. Dan40

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    Freedom is not "free." It comes at an extremely high price,,,,,,,personal responsibility!

    We are losing freedom NOT due to authoritarian governments, but to a lack of personal responsibility.
     
  25. DeathStar

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    Spoken like a true fascist.
     

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