SELL MORTIMER, SELL!!

"The wages of sin is death.."

"The soul that sins will die.."

Once you replace your own concept of good and bad with the reality of good and bad, how bad we really are comes clearly into focus.

 

You need to be told what to do?

Knowing you're gonna die changes what?

 

So you're for bankrupting the country.
Ok

 

It's going to shut down anyway.
Better sooner than later.

 

Well said. America is the good guy when compared to others.

 

Then you should be happy with Trump

 

For relying on the governors?
No.
Just a dodge of responsibility to go along with the rest of his piecemeal effort.

 

Shouldn't leftists be out trying to get infected with Wuhan virus to prove they're not racist?

 

Wow, that's some top draw maths there bucko.
1,000 x 116 = 11,600
Are you sure about that and if you are were you homeschooled by the pet dog?

 

Different disease. Europe is having even more problems than the US with coronavirus. Is Italy's terrible plight Trump's fault also?

 

You know the answer to that already

 

Currently $32.04. He's lost $8,000 so far.

 

If you read other posts below, you would see I already corrected that to "One hundred" instead of one thousand.....
My error. Not quite a Joe Biden class mis-statement, but my error, unintentional.

 

Imperial College has made mathematical predictions based on the current death rates which predict 2.2 million deaths in the US if containment measures are not taken.
These are the experts Boris is using here in the UK where we can expect up to half a million deaths if the outbreak is left unchecked.
This is why he has promised 15% of our GDP to mitigate the economic consequences with more to come if required.
Is that something he would do if he thought this was going to be no worse than seasonal flu?
Even with the shutdown and social distancing recommended we are told to expect deaths in the tens of thousands.
Our average yearly flu death rate is around 8,000.

 

Dream on.

March 16, 2020​

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 6 percent on Wednesday under the 20,000 level,
nearly erasing the iconic index's previous gains since Trump's inauguration and
jeopardizing a key talking point for his reelection campaign.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/18/donald-trump-stock-market-dip-135807

Fake Don can still wax nostalgic about his "good old days" I suppose.​

 

Exactly!

The sheer hubris at laughing under these conditions is appalling, but expected.

 

It's going to come back and when it does it will be even stronger.

Democrats seem to be happy about the economy crashing. They think this is it for trump and that's all they seem to care about.

 

The real problem here is that so much is speculation. Lacking a history, the science people are working from scratch with information that is marginal is many ways. For example the mortality has been described as low as 1%, ans high as 15% is things I've seen. At the same time, they are discovering that a very large percentage of people who actually contract the virus have no symptoms or such light ones they don't see it as abnormal One estimate said that may apply to 85% of those who contract it, and such cases do not become part of the database- thus the mortality drawn from the database would apply only to the 15%, and ignore the unknown 85%. That makes it 7 times higher than the real number would be.

I believe that public pressure forces a lot of people- certainly politicians- to adopt positions they may not believe in, but are demanded by the public. I believe in this situation, the damage being done in the reactions is going to be a devastating over-kill, simply because this has occurred so fast that they are unprepared. Panic causes a loss of reasoning, and that can be dangerous. We have a report this afternoon that people are calling our 911 emergency number to report people who are coughing. We are seeing some very irrational behavior, and it has the potential to become dangerous. Also today- automakers Ford and GM have said they will suspend production of cars until the end of the month, then evaluate again. Maybe they will give their workers two weeks paid time off, maybe the workers will not be paid. Either way it's an economic loss, and that will have consequences.

My point is that there is a great deal that we do not know- and while taking proper steps to control the virus damage is both necessary and wise, it's not wise to shoot yourself in the foot while doing it. That is happening right now, big time. So far, we don't have the numbers to justify the moves, but of course the objective it to keep them from happening. But- we need more information on the virus, we need better data, and we need more cool heads, less panic.

My particular situation can whether most any financial storm, and my family is very healthy- but many businesses will be wiped out by the extremes. Their employees will lose their jobs, and it becomes a casdade of consequences. Not good for any of us.

 

But we are not dismissive of education nor intellect, providing you have actually learned something useful and are capable of actually using it productively.
Graduating with a PhD in Whineology, Arrogance or Socialism doesn't carry much weight with people who expect results. And it's not jealousy- it's disgust for those who think that way.

 

That disgust based on historical examples of how similar ways of thinking and the policies activated by them have been destructive in nature.

 

Sure, there is no good way out of this. What the people making the difficult decisions have to do is balance loss of life with damage to the economy.
There is some history to base the mathematical models on though.
The SARS outbreak was a very similar coronavirus and if you bear in mind that the death count for CV19 exceeded that within a matter of weeks you can understand why they are worried.
Different leaders around the world in a huge range of circumstances and political systems with their own experts and advisors are all coming to a similar conclusion, this is potentially catastrophic and action must be taken to mitigate the consequences even if that means a worldwide recession.
I don't want to be rude, but unless you have some expertise in this field that I don't know about, all you are is a bloke on the internet panicking about panic.

 

We all have to draw our own conclusions. I do my homework, and while the doesn't make me a qualified expert, it's pretty clear the qualified experts are giving us their best guesses too, because nobody has enough history with this to be absolute positive. I've been through nd managed a great many tough situations; I've become a very proficient survivor- and I do recognize both panic and the consequences that go with it.
And unfortunately- that was indeed rude. I do understand you're British.

 

I apologise if you found it to be rude, my statement stands though.

 

Rude is one thing; assuming that you are wiser than others without any support for that is another. More offensive. Speaks not about the person who does it, not those they offend.

 

Like assuming you know more than the world's leading experts on pandemics and how to combat them?
I agree totally.