Sen. Feinstein introducing bill to ban bump stocks after Vegas shooting.....

Oh, yeah, they'll ban the bump-stocks... and that's not necessarily a bad thing. The danger is that it's one of their great missions in life is to eventually gut the whole right to own weapons of self-defense. So, they'll go after anything they can, as often as they can, and keep pressing on to the "final solution"....

. "Today, get their 'bump-stocks' -- tomorrow, grab everything they have to defend themselves with!"

 

Jimmy Crackedcorn Kimmel the comedian that never was funny, says we are owned by the NRA.

 

I disagree. The entire Justice department are all civil servants or political appointee's, same with most federal Judges. By and large, most including the FBI director, the BATFE director and the DEA director are investigators, not judges and will tend to be more apolitical than legislators who all have political party allegiances and will be judgmental most of the time when drafting a bill.

Debate for any type of gun legislation or anything involving technical aspects should at least include testimony from expert whiteness's. In most cases, the ATF's technical branch or the FBI's forensics branch with have much more expertise than any legislator. Just because a representative or senator is on the judicial committee does not make them an expert lawyer much less a firearms expert.

 

Doesn't matter that it doesn't apply to U.S. agencies or departments--they have access to full auto anyway. They don't need to do the poor-man's version of full auto.

 

Ah.....I was going with cheating for the other.

 

So I am owned by the NRA? Nein Herr Kimmel, I am not owned, I am a free man. To quote the old British series, "The Prisoner", "I am not a number, I'm a Free man!"

 

You have it backwards. First they determine if you need a gun (you don't) then they determine if you need a mental examine...followed by a nice vacation in a re-education camp.

Remember what I said about setting a bad precedent?

 

After giving the issue some more thought I think that the NRA realizes that the bump shock widget does not increase the rate of Fire enough to make a significant difference so why waste time fighting it.

 

Agreed here on all points. While I think Paddock's use of bump fire stock is overrated and while I do believe a ban on them will give political cover for many politicians in an election year, I'm against bans as a general principle since it sets a precedent for further bans.

 

We don't need on stink'en bump stock

 

If automatics are illegal, then why should a device that makes a semi-automatic act very much like a automatic, why should that device continue to be circulated in the general public?

 

Call me a conspiracy theorist all you like, but there is a clear agenda from both sides of the aisle to curtail the very instrument of government and governance, that are supposedly sworn to by all members of Congress, the POTUS, ALL Supreme Court Justices, ALL state and local judges and magistrates, all state politicians, and local politicians, as well as ALL law enforcement officers and agents. If the question is ever asked of me, when said people are sworn-in for their respective positions, they MUST, upon penalty of being charged with and tried for treason, which used to be an executable offense, and held to their oaths. The madness of the argument that when the Constitution for these United States was ratified there were only muskets and single-shot pistols makes no sense to me. With the advancements in firearms technology, such a position is illogical and pretends that most people who possess firearms are irresponsible. I use as an example, medical technology, although there have been vast improvements in Occidental medicine since the day of Hippocrates; the Hippocratic Oath still stands in the medical field. Yes there are some who violate the Hippocratic Oath still modern medical techniques are used just about every day in the medical field(s). Why is not the same principle applied to gun ownership? We are far past the days of the single-shot Spanish styled pistols, flint-lock pistols and the muskets. If this nation was to be invaded today, actually it is being invaded by many who come from south of the border but that is a digression, the invading force would not use flint-locks, they would utilize advanced weaponry. I know that many are thinking to themselves, they could also use fight-jets, ships, tanks, etc., to which I reply, “Balderdash, they would use conventional weapons, that are easy to transport, and conceal. But Alif Qadr, I thought that you said you are a Muslim. I am and I do not own any firearms, but I would like to think that if by chance I would need one, they would be readily available.

 

Ask the BATF that and ask yourself if they are dangerous why did it take so long for one to be used?

 

Machine guns (full automatics up to .50 cal) are NOT illegal in most states. see my post #20. This is the crap that MSM spews to the uninformed general public. They don't know so they make up crap without doing any fact checking.

Only 9 states plus DC restrict NFA weapons outright. 2 states have partial restrictions. Every other state including some that have banned semi-auto "assault rifles" like CT do not restrict NFA registered machine guns.

The Gatling gun which is capable of shooting 600 or more rounds per minute has no restrictions in any state. If you can afford one you can own it and shoot it.

 

Meh.....Jimmy was just parroting Hillary. Neither wants to take somebody on over the issue. As they know they will be humiliated. So its bleat out whatever from their pie holes.

 

Why would you need a Gatling gun that shoots that many rounds per minute? No hunter, let alone homeowner, needs that type of shooting capability. Those are developed for war.

 

Why would you need to do "art" that involves a crucifix immersed in urine? Basic liberty. We are a nation of laws.

There is no law that states that a Gatling gun is illegal, so for that reason, that is why it should be allowed. They have been legal since they were invented. I can't recall ever hearing of a Gatling gun massacre since the late 19th centuries (and most of that was by the government). BTW, Gatling guns with motors firing them are illegal. Hand cranked ones are not.

 

Nope.....no need.

 

That is how Stalin got rid of enemies he didn't shoot.

 

The reaction to this event should be to stop preventing thd CDC from studying gun violence in America.

That is well within their charter, as they study other threats to Americans. The NRA power over congress was brought to bear on the CDC, threatening the CDC with massive funding cuts should they work on this problem.

Passing a law against this one device can not even be pitched as a strp in the right direction without there being a real, nonpartisan scientific examination of the problem.

When we see school kids mown down by other more prosaic weaponry and we see gun death exceed traffic death it really makes no sense at all to go after this one weapon.

So, I am opposed to Feinstein on this. All it will accomplish is to distract from even attempting to find out what actually needs to be done.

 

Common sense only in their uncommon minds.

 

I work with a broker who buys lots of police trade-ins. He found 5 vintage Thomson machine guns and 2 Gatling guns in a basement police armory. One was like new, all brass. It's a beautiful weapon with historical significance. There is a market for some avid collectors who are willing to spend $50,000+ for a museum quality display piece. They may never fire things like Gats and cannons but will buy one because they are rare.

 

Perdidochas,

The so-called Tulsa race riot, which actually completely destroyed the town of Greenwood, OK took place in 1921 from May 31 to June 1. I mention it because according to survivor accounts, there was a Gatling gun used by the perpetrators of said offensive against innocent men, women and children.

 

http://www.slate.com/articles/healt..._deaths_and_self_defense_findings_from_a.html

You were saying?

http://dhss.delaware.gov/dhss/dms/files/cdcgunviolencereport10315.pdf