Sen. Hirono: Democrats Have a Hard Time "Connecting" With People Because Of "How Smart We Are"

I don't blame them, did you see the boats they used in the last few hurricanes? Flat bottom boats with trolling motors won't even make it to PR. I guess it would have been beneficial for the PR'ns to have citizens of their own who would volunteer to do the work instead.

Pity.

 

People in Houston and NC didn't sit on their ass and complain while electing corrupt officials that didn't give a damn about their people or the infrastructure for decades. The govt sent them toilet paper but didn't wipe their ass. To freakin bad.

 

The people in Puerto Rico have exploited themselves with their corruption. They are their own worst enemies.

U.S. House panel probes corruption allegations at Puerto Rico utility
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...egations-at-puerto-rico-utility-idUSKCN1GP03P

‘Inept’ Puerto Rican government ‘riddled with corruption’: CEO
https://nypost.com/2017/09/30/inept-puerto-rican-government-riddled-with-corruption-ceo/

House panel blasts Puerto Rico power agency for trying to 'discredit' corruption probe
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ency-for-trying-to-discredit-corruption-probe

Puerto Rico mayor, two others arrested on corruption charges
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/puerto-rico-mayor-two-others-arrested-on-corruption-charges/

Puerto Rico energy authority investigates dozens of post-Maria bribery cases
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation...vestigates-dozens-of-post-maria-bribery-cases

Puerto Rico's debt-plagued power grid was on life support long before hurricanes wiped it out
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-puerto-rico-power-20170925-story.html

 

Clinton had the same problem. She brought it up in a speech that to a private speech she gave to a huge bank. She got paid big bucks for that speech. She said that she found it hard to relate to regular people.

 

Democrats have the same response to every problem: more government.

How complex is that? It seems to be the philosophy of simple minds. It's not very deep.

 

Wait, let me get this straight. Your Cajun whatever come from a different state to help Texas (NC too?) but PR should STILL be left on their own. Do you get the point at all?

 

Not true, and are you telling me that there are no states that are corrupt? NC and Wis. come to mind.

 

Here's more:

 

LOL! Hirono lectures us about "smartness", Pelosi lectures us about "morality".....what is next, Bill Clinton preaching to us about respecting women?

 

I am saying that their problems were born of their own corruption when it comes to the amount of damage and their ability to recover from the hurricane. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. You can give them supplies but if they don't move them to where they are needed it's on them, not the president or the federal govt. Your assertions are idiocy but of course you already know that.

 

I really REALLY want to explain this in such a way that both sides of the political aisle can accept, but it may not be possible. Eh - here goes:

The issue isn't that Democrats are intellectually superior, because they aren't. Neither are Republicans. The issue is something I've noticed a lot from the press and celebrities, most of whom ARE on the left, who treat the hoi polloi as though they lack any kind of intellect altogether. And I'm specifically thinking of Katie Couric who decided to go to Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston and New Brunswick, New Jersey because by her own admission she wanted to tour “this great unwashed middle of the country” Now if that isn't a huge bellwether of what the press actually thinks - well, I dunno. This feeling that people who lack the fame, money, power, and connections the elite do must be intellectually deficient. Well, I've known quite a few parents lacking a college degree or two that have more smarts than Hollywood does - but these guys can't see it. And then we have celebrities talking down to us common folk as if these strutting peacocks have some kind of special knowledge that the rest of us lack. And Lord knows this is hardly unique to anyone of either political stripe - give someone even a taste of fame or power and alluvasudden they think they're better than the rest of us. I see it a LOT in education - and I'm seeing it here. People who let power and fame go to their heads.

What makes it worse is the lack of any kind of dissenting opinion within the Legacy Media or Hollywood. You don't find many conservatives in either, at least those who will admit to it relative to the sheer number who admit to being on the left. And so what happens when you have a general consensus that your political viewpoint is the correct in, indeed the ONLY one - a kind of intellectual incestuousness occurs where you consider that there are NO worthwhile opinions other than your own, and that anyone that doesn't agree with your group must simply be wrong with no need for debate - or even the attempt to understand the other side. The net effect is the feeling that anyone who disagrees with you must be both intellectually weaker than you - leading to the group believing in their own intellectual superiority. I refer you to the number of celebrities who swore they'd leave if Trump won - they really believed they were that important, that they were so much better than you that you needed them to stay so you better think like them, vote like them, and believe in them. Think about that for a moment. Even if you're on the left, even if you're the staunchest opponent of Trump - there is a group of people out there right now who feel they are so important to the country that if you dare disagree with them, they will leave - or at least will say they will. This kind of smug self-importance is what happens when you feel you're better than anyone else and it's not a part of any political philosophy so much as it is a result of being a part of a group that has no contrarians in it - which currently is a good description of the press and Hollywood.

As an aside, this is the main reason I love this board - there are people of any and every political stripe here. I know he's long banned, but I loved the fact that this place HAD a place for a Jack Napier, a devout Nazi even though most of the time I wanted to reach thru the monitor and slap him. And we've got religious people cavorting with atheists, capitalists with communists, and so forth. While I disagree with many people here, I enjoy reading their political views so long as they're willing to express them AND debate them. Gamewell45 is as left-wing as they come but you'll never see him post without his being willing to explain and debate WHY he believes what he does, and I can't recall his ever saying he was better than the posters he debates. <<MOD EDIT - Rule 4 - calling out another poster - Lee S did this.>> They're both on the left but GW is willing to engage in a give-and-take of ideas and is willing to accept other peoples opinions - as opposed to simply declaring an entire group of people wrong simply on his say-so. And it's why GW among others is respected here - and why other posters aren't.

Bottom line is this: Democrats - at least the ones this guy knows - aren't having a problem connecting with people because they're so much smarter than anyone else, they're having a problem connecting with people because they've lived in their own bubble of like-minded friends for so long they simply can't conceive of other people having differing opinions and can no longer relate to them.

 

Trump is massively arrogant, but he has his moments. Do you recall him saying he didn't drink, and could we imagine how bad he would be if he did?

 

The desire is to still get rid of it(we need a new political party other than Republicans.) It wasn't even social security, where everyone's taxes go into the fund. It was pure financial dictatorship.

 

Who else is available? Citizens from Texas aren't able to bring you water, a logistical impossibility. Sure Seems like at some point the PR'ns would start the recovery efforts themselves.

 

No, they aren't at all, but it's clear there is no point discussing it with you. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

No, it wasn't. It was the start of a system that is needed in this country with the knowledge that, while not perfect by any means, it was a start that could be built on but Republicans used it as a political football and did nothing but try to destroy it..... with absolutely no alternative at all, but made promises of.

 

Did you even consider the logic of what you just wrote and how it is supposed to work to counter my point. If you did.......not a good job.

 

There's no point in talking to you because you can't handle the truth.

 

The fact that they are far removed from the rest of the US has been noted. I pointed out that the Cajun Navy is not expected to use their flat bottom boats and trolling motors to travel there to help.

I said "Gee, sure wish the PR'ns could develop a "Cajun Navy" of their own."

You say "They don't have anyone to help them."

I said "Gee, sure wish the PR'ns could develop a "Cajun Navy" of their own."

You'll counter with "They don't have anyone to help them."

At some point you and the PR'ns will have to make the effort to stand the hell up on your own because if you think for a moment that I won't sit here and watch you drown in 4 inches of water, you are mistaken.

We gave you food, you let it rot. Couldn't even be bothered to take it off the trucks.

 

What this tells me is that he is saying the American people are way too dumb to know what's good for them. Too dumb to know what they want and need. That it is this guy Hirono and the Democrats who are only ones smart enough to know whats best for us, what we want, what we need, how we're suppose to think, what political ideology to adopt, whom to vote for, how to run our lives, etc. What a burden to be that smart.

 

Hirono is a FEMALE.

 

Oh, so if I want to have you fund let's say(for pure shock value) a white supremacist website by law and you object, you'd have no choice in the matter.(For disclaimer purposes, I'm not a white supremacist.)

It was financial dictatorship, it was such a shock because it's an anti-American bill on its principles. We can fix health care without violating the rights of the consumers.

 

Is there such a thing as he and she these days?

 

Point taken.

 

The concept of a mountainous jungle island seems lost on you. A "Cajun Navy" wouldn't have done jack. They needed Cajun bulldozers and such. There was a whole different set of problems. Island, mountains instead of flat. Downed trees and washed out roads instead of just boats on water. You say "Hey, we put it on the dock and you didn't deliver it' without mentioning that there were blocked roads or no roads which shows a complete lack of knowledge of what the situation was/is.