Senator Max Baucus (D-MT)--who is the architect of the Affordable Care Act (a.k.a. ObanaCare), but who also described it, in April, as a "huge train wreck"--has now had an epiphany as regarding the manner in which it was implemented: "It is my belief that for major legislation to be durable, sustainable, it has to be bipartisan. ...I mean, one party can't jam legislation down the other party's throat. It leaves a bitter taste." Here is the link: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/19/u...tting-over-health-law-he-shepherded.html?_r=0 Too bad he didn't think of that some 3 3/4 years ago...
How many years did they have a chance to work on this, when was it going to get done? Whether it feels good or not, or whether you beleive it or not, they do the peoples work.
Wow!! Such Right-wing HYPOCRISY!! (And coming from a Democrat, at that.) Baucus is talking from his anus.
It is a train wreck, because it is corporatist piece of (*)(*)(*)(*)!! If liberals had actually jammed something down our collective throats, we would have gotten something eminently better than what we actually got. People only believe it is some hardcore liberal policy, because they are being lied to by the corporate media every day of their lives!! They have internalized the lie that a policy originally dreamed up by the heritage foundation and supported by Republicans in the 1990s, is socialism!! Democrats passed the right wing option, and that WAS the compromise!! Yet the right complains!! If only people would wake up to the truth that both parties represent the same interests, and Obamacare is just a giant handout to insurance companies, maybe we could have a real debate. Unfortunately, the right is now the left in this crazy country, and the right is now off the scale. It is why our two presidential candidates from 2012 are in the upper right quadrant of the political compass scale!! We need a real left wing. Not a right wing and a slightly less right wing!!
Trying to palm off Hussein Obama as "right wing" is a tough sell to most people. Authoritarian? Absolutely? Right wing? No way.
Perhaps this belongs in the "Conspiracy Theories" section... Republicans certainly did not support HillaryCare (which failed, spectacularly)... As I have noted previously (in both this and other political forums), ObamaCare was hardly a "compromise" between a single-payer system and the status quo ante; rather, it represents the worst of both worlds. Given a choice between ObamaCare and a single-payer system, I would opt for the latter, without so much as a nanosecond's hesitation. Fortunately, those are not the only two options available... Perhaps this might be accurate--from an international perspective. But I am an American citizen--not a member of some amorphous "World Community"--so the only perspective that is of any concern to me is the American perspective...
It isn't a conspiracy. It isn't hidden at all. It is all out in the open. It is just like the "liberal media" stuff the right like to talk about, which is never put in the conspiracy section, only it is actually true!! Correct. It is only that what Hillary was proposing wasn't a mandate. The mandate was something dreamed up by the Heritage Foundation and supported by Republicans in opposition to Hillary's plan. I agree, a single payer system with privately provided health care (I don't want government owning the hospitals or anything like that) would be far better than what we actually got. Obamacare is awful. It just isn't awful in the way the right have been tricked into believing. A plan that forces people to buy something from capitalists is the very antithesis of socialism!! Yet we are told it is socialism constantly. That is the lie of the corporate media I was talking about. Anything to the left of where Reagan was is called socialist these days. It is a all-encompassing uncritical and unintelligent way of effectively attacking a policy without understanding any of its substance!! Socialism is a dirty word in this country, so call something socialism, even when it is not socialism, and you will get a segment of the population screaming and up in arms. What it also does is makes a Republican idea palatable to Democrats and keeps all the opposition on the right, even when it should be coming from the left as well!! Just an aside, by the 2008 Democratic Primary, the originally Republican idea had been adopted by Hillary Clinton. She supported a mandate in the primaries. Obama vehemently opposed that, and attacked her on that issue. It was one of the most fundamental disagreements between the two, with the exception of their positions on Iraq, possibly the most significant. Yet Obama in office passed a mandate. It shows how little principle matters to politicians, and that it was undoubtedly a compromise!! Obama campaigned in favor of a public option (though his failure to ever promote that notion strongly makes me believe he never actually wanted that in the first place. It was just politics to distinguish him from Hillary in some meaningful way).
They're obviously either totally incompetent or totally corrupt. I believe most of the evidence proves the latter, so this is happening as it was designed to happen for the most part. Nonsense, they routinely screw the people. The work for themselves, for their own power and prestige, ONLY.
The're not there unless people vote for them, sooner or later the people will figure it out. I did have tungue in cheak when I wrote that.
So, it is "actually true!!" that Americans "are being lied to by the corporate media every day of their lives!!" Okaaaay... There is a very good article on this matter from February 2012, in USA Today. Here is a bit of it: Here is the link: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news...individual-mandate-reform-heritage/52951140/1 On this, at least, we agree...
