Senate announces probe of Loretta Lynch behavior in 2016 election

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  1. bois darc chunk

    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am bothered by anything that is problematic to my country. I don't give one hoot about political parties. If you're equally bothered by both Democratic and Republican failings, then we agree. I didn't see that in your posts when you repeatedly mentioned the left. That may have been my mistake. If so, then please accept my apology.

    You're free to hold Obama to whatever standard you wish. Seems to me, that despite Benghazi, his administration was more transparent than the one preceding where we were lied into war, and the present one where anything the President doesn't like is fake news. Might just be my perspective though.
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've been very hard on Flynn. IMO, he needs to go to prison.

    I'm disgusted by Pence looking right into the camera and saying, "That's the first time I've heard of that" when he was bold faced lying. Flynn's vetting for a job in Trump's administration is on Trump's transition team, not Obama. Keep in mind, Obama fired Flynn. Getting any security clearance he got reinstated was simply respect for the fact that he had been a general, and certainly wasn't detailed enough for the job Trump gave him. Apparently Pence did do some vetting, but as Sean Spicer was quoted, it was "casual." Even then, there is evidence Pence knew about Flynn's Turkey money and allowed him to move forward anyway. I place Flynn's appointment squarely on both Trump and Pence.

    There has been no proof that there was any illegal unmasking.
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm an independent too, and I agree with this post. :)
    I find it to be quite sad that moral patriots don't run for office, and if they do, they are often corrupted in the process.
     
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    No apologies necessary. I like vigorous debate, and you're quite good at it. BTW, I do rag on the left a lot because I'm a proud conservative. Since the left was in power over the past 8 years, I had a lot of material to work with.;)
     
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    Of course. This is to protect against "procedural" crimes. Scooter Libby, for example, was convicted in the investigation into Valerie Plame's outing, even though, everyone knew the whole time that he wasn't guilty of outing her, that Dick Armitage was. These Prosecutor abuses have to stop, and I believe believe it may take jailing some Prosecutors.
     
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    No. It looks like this whole Flynn thing was that "payback" Schumer warned about when he explained why you never ever piss off these out of control, unelected Administrative Agencies.

    Was the FBI Investigation into General Flynn Just Payback for Him Embarrassing the FBI by Supporting an FBI Agent Who Complained of Sex Discrimination?

    No less an authority than Chuck Schumer told us, you never go to war with the Deep State -- they have a thousand ways to get payback.

    John Solomon and Sarah Carter continue digging:

    The FBI launched a criminal probe against former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn two years after the retired Army general roiled the bureau’s leadership by intervening on behalf of a decorated counterterrorism agent who accused now-Deputy FBI Director "Dirty" Andrew McCabe and other top officials of sexual discrimination, according to documents and interviews.

    Flynn’s intervention on behalf of Supervisory Special Agent Robyn Gritz was highly unusual, and included a letter in 2014 on his official Pentagon stationary, a public interview in 2015 supporting Gritz’s case and an offer to testify on her behalf. His offer put him as a hostile witness in a case against McCabe, who was soaring through the bureau’s leadership ranks.

    The FBI sought to block Flynn’s support for the agent, asking a federal administrative law judge in May 2014 to keep Flynn and others from becoming a witness in her Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) case, memos obtained by Circa show. Two years later, the FBI opened its inquiry of Flynn.

    The EEOC case, which is still pending, was serious enough to require McCabe to submit to a sworn statement to investigators, the documents show.

    The deputy director’s testimony provided some of the strongest evidence in the case of possible retaliation, because he admitted the FBI opened an internal investigation into Gritz’s personal conduct after learning the agent “had filed or intended to file” a sex discrimination complaint against her supervisors.

    "Dirty" McCabe eventually became the bureau’s No. 2 executive and emerged as a central player in the FBI’s Russia election tampering investigation, putting him in a position to impact the criminal inquiry against Flynn.

    Three FBI employees told Circa they personally witnessed "Dirty" McCabe make disparaging remarks about Flynn before and during the time the retired Army general emerged as a figure in the Russia case.

    See this Flashback from the Washington Post: the FBI reviewed Flynn's calls with the Russian ambassador back in December and found nothing illicit at all.

    And so they turned to trying to nail him on a paperwork foul having nothing to do with Russia at all.

    Almost as if the top echelons of the FBI had been politicized and weaponized.

    Thank God we have a cadre of "conservatives" to lecture us every day that anyone who works in a hierarchical organization and wears a suit is due the unquestioning obedience one would offer a living god.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/370410.php
     
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    Yes they will if they handle classified information with gross negligence
    Please be specific, for what should he go to prison?

    Wrong but do explain who in the Trump transition had the legal authority to conduct such a security investigation and grant necessary clearances.

    So did Trump, but you would think that after firing him Obama would have taken more care in his security clearance.

    He held the highest clearances and it's up to the FBI to insure he holds the proper ones for his transition and then taking on the job as the President's security advisers. The President elect does not do the investigation.

    There is indisputable evidence the information was ILLEGALLY leaked.
     
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    The Russians (and Soviets before them) never telegraph their intentions.
     

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