Separatists make Belgium gains

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  1. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    I believe the EU is on borrowed time, but to see the UK and Belgium moving towards breaking apart is interesting too. I guess it comes down to respecting freedom at the local level. I'd like to see the American states take a lot of their power back from the federal gov't.
     
  2. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    You live in USA... How can you know how things are rolling here? You ever lived here or at least been to Belgium?

    Btw, if USA states took back the power from thye central government,it would be a denial of the very essence of American values on which all America is built , a deep self-renegation and the word American would lose its meaning. Btw it's only a surrealistic twist of a nightmare shared by few Americans. Racism and inequality from one state to another would flourish once again!! And you would have 'black' an d 'white' states, depending on who grabs the power first. Small churches like the Mormons would become a target without reason once again and so on...

    Never been to USA but I read its constitution and grew up with American TV. Giving that up is giving up everything.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Reading. You?
     
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    Leffe New Member

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    I'm confused. Where in the article does it mention that Europe's largest pro-EU nation state (Belgium) wants to leave the EU?

    You just made that up, didn't you!?! *Gives wry smile to Don*
     
  5. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    I think he means that apart from the 'endangered' EU he also finds it delightful if Scotland broke from the UK and the Flanders from Belgium.

    Anyway the Europe's largest pro-EU nation state (if you regard it today as more of a nation state rather than a federation) is Germany, isn't it?
     
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    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    Already told you.

    And btw... today, by the time a book gets published what is in it is history already. And it's usually a subjective way of finding out things because it encompasses only what 1 man could encompass. Debates and people disagreeing with each other is what forms your objective tools to get your own view. You should watch European TV news from different European states, maybe get some newspapers too.
     
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    PropagandaMachine New Member

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    Careful.
     
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    What bothers me is that many articles about Belgium in foreign media, always use French-speaking sources...

    Hello? "Le Soir" is a francophone Socialist-leaning newspaper that has her own agenda against De Wever and his party (btw -- the biggest of all Belgium, even bigger than the Walloon PS).

    Numerous articles in countless of newspapers have bothered me...

    De Wever, and his party, are sepetarist in the sense that they believe in self-determination. Check the numbers. For the last decades, Flanders has been voting centre-right, and Wallonia has been voting left.

    Europe, as already pointed out by Leffe, is not a discussion point at all.

    The NVA is moderately conservative first, sepetarist second -- their slogan is: "Nodig in Vlaanderen, nuttig in Europa" => "Neccessary in Flanders, useful in Europe".

    They are very pro-European.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say that. LOL!!!!
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    TV? I prefer reading. BTW- newspapers are read. They are also written by the press. You have to be careful with that.
     
  11. Leffe

    Leffe New Member

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    Then you didn't write:

    "I believe the EU is on borrowed time"
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    That's not the same thing. At least three EU states are in danger of breaking up. That is not healthy for the EU. Belgium isn't seeking to leave, but fragmented states may.
     
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    Leffe New Member

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    No its not the same thing.

    Then you didn't write:

    "I believe the EU is on borrowed time"
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    I did, but I didn't mean what you so desperately want me to have meant. Post #5 knows what I meant. Why don't you???

    BTW- did you ever answer about that odd progressive magic?
     

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