"Serious Miscarriage of Justice" re: Malcolm X Assassination

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  1. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I am talking about a 400 year+ history of being subject to systemic racist authoritarian rule which has been meted out and enforced by police agencies, courts of law and private citizens. Even after the emancipation proclamation in the 1860s African Americans were systemically and unconstitutionally discriminated against for another 100+ years. Then finally after 400 years of being treated like either chattel property then subhuman subjects, finally in the 1960’s civil rights and voting rights laws were passed but they certainly did not stop most police agencies from brutalizing and discriminating against them.

    Now we have the GOP/Trumpist movement trying to weaken and reverse the Voting rights act and had a POTUS who suggested that even though a group of black men were wrongly convicted and exonerated they should be executed anyway. He took out a full page ad saying exactly that. With these FACTS in mind, I certainly can understand why many black Americans are growing angry and distrustful of the system. See what I mean?

    I know that putting these facts into perspective is not favored by the new Trumpist right wing and they have named it CRT which they claim is part of some communist plot to take over America and that children should not be allowed to be taught these facts of history. However I believe everything should be put out there in the open for everybody to see.
     
  2. kreo

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    What do you want from me?
    What exactly I should do to help you to stop that racial war mongering?
    You have got unconstitutional special rights (Affirmative Actions),
    you have got all the power in most of the big cities in US that makes people's life miserable.
    you have got no go zones controlled by gangs.
    You have got everything but that everything is not enough.

    All countries fought the wars and enslaved population of conquered nations.
    No one had given s...t about the race.
     
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  3. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1) I don’t want anything from you.

    2) I am not racially war mongering, simply pointing out some facts that may be responsible for much of the current tension between people of different races here in America.

    3) I do not have any unconstitutional special rights.

    4 I have little or no power in any city except to try to help whenever I can and try not to start any trouble.

    5) I have no, no go zones nor do I belong to any gangs.

    6) I have got what is mine and I am grateful to have it.

    7) Not all countries have fought wars and enslaved the populations of those they conquered.

    8) Many people care deeply about racial injustice as it exists now and as it has throughout history.

    So there you go. You made 8 assertions all of which were totally false and managed to not respond to any of the facts I pointed out. You are not very good at this, are you?
     
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  4. kreo

    kreo Well-Known Member

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    I think we should have a tax for whiteness, like e.g. person with 50% of white DNA should pay 1X tax, 100% DNA 1.5X tax.
    That is how we will defeat "systemic racism".
    Once we defeat "systemic racism" we going to search and find other forms of racism.
    E.g. environmental racism, or weather induced racism
    There is a lot of things that are genuinely racist.
     
  5. Dayton3

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    the state did not kill any of those and there is no evidence they did
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    5 stars for you! Keep on believing everything you are told by MSM.
     
  7. Dayton3

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    What does the media have to do with this? I taught American history for more than a decade. I've researched this for years.
     
  8. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The media has everything to do with this. It's probably not likely that in your American History classes you ever taught about Edward Bernays and his methods. Likely you never taught anything about Operation Mockingbird in your history classes.
     
  9. Dayton3

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    Operation Mockingbird has never been confirmed as existing so it would be irresponsible for me to teach it.
     
  10. George Bailey

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    Were they not found guilty by a jury? Do you have a better system than the jury system? Enlighten us.

    And just because their convictions were thrown out doesn't make them innocent.

    The West Memphis 3 had their convictions thrown out and there is absolutely no doubt they were guilty.
     
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    Lyndon Johnson was not too happy with Malcom, so he had the FBI kill him. Same FBI, different boss. Democrats have never run as a “Law and Order” party! That was for the stodgy Republicans!
     
  12. kazenatsu

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    Sometimes it depends on what the crime is.
    (There might be some crimes where we can only let 1 guilty go free for every 1 imprisoned, whereas for other crimes even 1 innocent being convicted for every 10 guilty people is too much)
     
  13. MiaBleu

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    Not sure one can generalize that way...........as each case must be evaluated on its own merit.....or lack of.
     
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    What crimes do you suggest we hold to a lower standard of 'proof' of guilt in order to reduce the occurance of the guilty getting off?
     
  15. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was more like I was suggesting a higher standard of proof for some. Laws that criminalize things when it is not absolutely essential for those things to be criminalized.
     
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    Further, the names of the killers of Malcolm X have been lnown since the 70s. Talmadge Hayer, who was convicted with the two innicent men, admitted his role but denied they were present. In the 1970s he named the other men who were responsible. There is good reason to believe that one of those men, William Bradley, was involved, so it is entirely credible that the others were involved too. All were from mosques in New Jersey.

    It is criminal that the authorities refused to re-open the case decades ago when all those men were alive & capable of answering for their crimes.
     
  17. Izzy

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    Here ya go!

    Men exonerated in Malcolm X killing to receive $36 million

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    https://apnews.com/article/new-york...e&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_09
     
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