Seriously... this is heartwrenching. All politics aside, everybody needs to listen to this.

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  1. Bow To The Robots

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    A nation that respects the rule of law?

    You know these people aren't supposed to be here, right?
     
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    Simple. Your stupid, F***ing moron of a president should stop using the children as a bargaining chip to get his wall and pick up the telephone. That's all it would take.
     
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    I buy life insurance, list emergency contacts, buy health and auto insurance, property insurance, drive safe vehicles, and generally make most choices with my children's well-being being a big component of the process.

    These parents knew this risk and still took it. All emotional nonsense aside, what is the purpose of your post other than to show the blatant irresponsibility of these children's parents.
     
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    So, you want the president to refuse to enforce immigration laws or to also imprison children?
     
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    What makes you think it's a law? Is it because trump said it was the democrats fault for passing the law? If so, why hasn't trump been enforcing the law before now? The simple answer is that it's not a law. It's a practice started by a F***ing moron hoping to use the children as pawns to get the democrats to agree to his wall. If you don't realize by now that trump is lying whenever he opens his mouth that means you're the problem just as much as he is.
     
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    Sorry for the partial quote, but the rest of your screed was non-value added. Either way, it is illegal to enter the country. What should be done with the children orphaned due to their parents committing this crime?
     
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    The solution is beyond my pay grade and probably yours. Apparently there was some procedure previously used that might have worked. I don't know.
     
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    Stop with the BS. You have no knowledge of where or when this took place.
     
  9. Bow To The Robots

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    Actually it is a law. It was passed in 1997 under President Clinton and was concerned with the care of minors whose parents were being processed in the system. That it has been largely ignored up to this point is inconsequential to its application today.
     
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    They are being housed in safe, clean, and secure facilities where they are fed, cared for, bathed, given medical attention, and watching Disney movies dubbed in Spanish. Once the parents are scheduled for removal, the kids should simply be reunited and they can all go back to their country of origin together.
     
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    I listened to the audio and frankly it sounds staged.
     
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    yeah its heart wrenching when children have criminals for parents and they are separated from them. I don't know why parents will do that to their children.
     
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    So, you are just pissed that bad things happen. That sounds pretty immature.
     
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    Yeah, especially when they aren't necessary.
     
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    O.K., so you drank the Kool-Aid.
     
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    No. I’ve seen the videos.
     
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    They already are in their home country. That's what asylum is.
     
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    Had they been willing to deal on Daca among other things this could have been avoided they weren't so the crap hits the fan and even worse than the PLO he send their own kids to die for cheap political points the Democrats are using some one else's kids to score cheap political points.
     
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    ONly if approved and most of them won't be. They never are and never have been.
     
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    Noppe you are using some one else's kids to score cheap political points. It ain't terrorism but in the grand scheme of things it still about as low down and cheesy as you can get.
     
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    And, as any Trump loyalists, you also have no idea what they risk if they don't risk this.

    The main problem with Trump fanatics is that they don't understand what's going on around them, and they don't care enough to learn. Historically this is the perfect balance of mindset, gullibility and ignorance that wanna-be despots crave.

    Only happens in Trump world. And only to Trump fanatics is it ok.
     
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    But somehow it was not "heartwrenching" in 2014. And there were far more examples in 2014.

    "UPDATE, November 20, 2014 (Ian Gordon): According to US Customs and Border Protection, 68,541 unaccompanied children were apprehended at the border in fiscal 2014. Despite some government funding for legal aid, many of them are still struggling to find lawyers. Meanwhile, President Obama’s executive action does not provide relief from deportation for recent child migrants."
    MOTHER JONES, 70,000 Kids Will Show Up Alone at Our Border This Year. What Happens to Them?,
    Officials have been stunned by a “surge” of unaccompanied children crossing into the United States., IAN GORDONJULY/AUGUST 2014 ISSUE.
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/child-migrants-surge-unaccompanied-central-america/

    IOW, the current MSM/DP FAKE NEWS storm is just more phony baloney election cycle political hype.
    Ordinary Americans are now onto the scam.
     
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    If it is so important to oyou should have no problem swapping border enforcement for getting what you want.
     
  24. Golem

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    This is not about the workers. It's about the policy. Torturing children as only Trump can, and as only his supporters can excuse.
     
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    Keep them with their families, like Obama did. Obama may have jailed unaccompanied kids, but he didn't deliberately force more kids to become unaccompanied by ripping them away from their parents.

    Big difference. Obama's policy wasn't good, but it was way better than the Trump policy. Thus, the Trump-fanatic "but ... but ... Obama!" weaseling isn't going to work.

    (And in general, you'll find liberals thought Obama was too conservative on immigration policy, just as he was too conservative on most issues. LIberals, as usual, are consistent.)
     

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