Sessions abruptly cancels public testimony

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  1. PrincipleInvestment

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    Irrelevant. It demonstrates the deep ties that bind Comey & Mueller. The Bush memos are proof Comey lied during his testimony. It shows Comey IS NOT easily "stunned" and he's "strong enough" to defy presidential directives, and threaten resignation ... when it suits him.
     
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    Comey insisted upon testifying in public. Mueller had nothing whatsoever to do with that.

    Sessions has a serious credibility problem whereas both Comey and Mueller don't.

    Sessions is going to be grilled by the Senate Dems and whatever answers he provides will be self serving. Whatever allegations he makes about Comey will fall under the same skeptical scrutiny. The Senate Republicans have no reason to believe Sessions given that he is in bed with the BLOTUS.
     
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    Sure. As soon as one sordid narrative unravels, Dems are on to the next. Were now at the stage where Obamas people are under intense pressure. Dems will want to wrap up the "collusion & interference" probes as soon as the 1st indictment is issued to a former Obama / Clinton staffer. What bothers me, is that despite all the illegal surveillance, no useful evidence was even collected. To politicize the IC, blatantly abuse 702, and come up empty? 702 shouldn't be re authorized.
     
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    Too many people around Trump are involved with Russia at a time when Russia was under US sanctions.

    There was NO illegal surveillance. The US has monitored communication going in or coming out of all Russian embassies .. for decades.

    Remember 2005 when Bush hammered Exxon for their attempted meeting with the Cuban oil minister in Mexico City?
     
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    Comey met Mueller privately before testifying. He went over the memos, and his "monologue". Mueller must have felt any of it had any evidenciary value, or Comey a credible witness. Mueller wouldn't risk Comey discrediting himself prior the testifying at trial. Now detailed memos of his private meetings with Bush have surfaced. Sessions will point out other contradictions. Comey is useless, his memos are useless, the obstruction case is finished.
     
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    I'm sorry, but the vast volume of 702 abuses 2015-2016 were "self reported" by the NSA. The court docs have been provided on numerous threads. Likewise the FBI illegally sharing that intel with private entities. Fusion GPS also conducted illegal surveillance as a HRC / DNC proxy. Exactly in the manner of CIA "contractors" did, culmonating in the Watergate burglary. Congressional committees have already issued subpoenas for unmasking. They can't ignore the facts that you've chosen to.
     
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    I think Trump got involved to promote Trump more than subverting the Obama administration. By the time Trump started making waves the birther movement was pretty much dead.

    What's happening now is a concerted effort to subvert the Trump administration.
     
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    Mueller is NOT Comey's lawyer so all of your SPECULATION about what occurred between them is just your opinion, nothing more.

    Comey has not been discredited except on the extremist alt right rant sites that have no bearing whatsoever on Mueller's investigations. If Mueller can find supporting evidence that the BLOTUS was obstructing justice then he will present that as an indictment. If not then the current he said, he said is not sufficient to bring charges. Comey knew that going into his testimony and so did Mueller.

    Mueller still has the more important task of the Russian CyberWarfare against America to investigate. Charges are probably pending against Flynn and Kushner from what has been leaked already. If the BLOTUS ordered Flynn and Kushner to set up the Russian Spy Apparatus to circumvent US Law of the Land then the BLOTUS will be indicted for conspiracy.

    But that investigation still has a long way to go given how widespread and damaging it was.

    I am willing to wait and see what the outcome will be. I don't know if the BLOTUS can survive that "pressure".
     
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    It's not all cut and dry as you suggest. Do you have some proof about business dealings we don't know about?

    Financial dealings with a Russian bank that remains under U.S. sanctions can result in serious penalties – or not. Wall Street On Parade conducted research into filings made at the Securities and Exchange Commission for fixed income securities issued by Vnesheconombank and found that some of the biggest names in Wall Street banking and mutual funds in the U.S. hold, cumulatively, hundreds of millions of dollars in notes and bonds issued by the Russian bank.

    Fidelity Advisor’s Emerging Markets Income Fund shows it held more than $62 million in VEB fixed income securities as of December 31, 2016. Various Deutsche Bank mutual funds that operate in the U.S. own tens of millions of dollars of VEB debt securities. JPMorgan’s Emerging Markets Debt Fund shows that as of November 30, 2016, it held $20.5 million in VEB debt securities, although, curiously, it has the position assigned to its Ireland holdings. Other big mutual fund names showing VEB assets are PIMCO, Putnam, and Vanguard.

    The U.S. mutual funds are apparently able to continue to hold these assets because of the wording of the U.S. Treasury’s sanction announcement that was issued on July 16, 2014. The sanction order prohibited “new financing” to VEB but was silent on what banks should do with the hundreds of millions of dollars of VEB securities already in their portfolios.

    The U.S. Treasury defines VEB as follows:

    “VEB is a Russian state-owned financial institution that acts as a development bank and payment agent for the Russian government. It was formed June 8, 2007, pursuant to Russian federal law and is the legal successor to Vnesheconombank of the USSR, which was a specialized Russian state bank…VEB acts as an agent for the Russian Government for the purposes of accounting, servicing, and repaying the sovereign debts of the former USSR and Russia; accounting, servicing, and repaying government loans issued by the former USSR and Russia to foreign borrowers; collecting debts from legal entities of Russia and municipal governments; providing and executing state guarantees of Russia and monitoring projects implemented by Russia with involvement of international financial institutions.”

    http://wallstreetonparade.com/2017/...tioned-russian-bank-subject-to-kushner-probe/
     
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    Which part of "If Mueller can find supporting evidence that the BLOTUS was obstructing justice" needs to be explained?
     
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    Irrelevant. Confirmation of "hope", is still "hope". It's ambiguous. Comeys "feelings" of sublime direction are just comical. Comey admits Trump requested a thorough investigation of his "satelites". A man doesn't direct you to drop an investigation, and then approve of the work you're doing.
     
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    No sequitur response!
     
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    :roflol: This one you might wealky argue as non-sequitir ... :roflol:
     
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    It's the run but can't hide MO.
     
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    Do u really think Pres. Trump is going to allow Sessions to testify.
     
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    Not much the BLOTUS can do to stop him IMO!

    Even if he fires Sessions that won't stop him testifying.
     
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    Sessions has the cover of the GOP, he will just give false statements as he has many times before.
     
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    But that's not what you said. You said "Comey has landed a $10 million dollar book deal." Why did you feel it necessary to exaggerate (lie?)?
     
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    Perhaps you should be asking yourself why there is "one sordid narrative" after another. All during the campaign there was one trump "outrage" after another. It seems to be trump's way of distracting and deflecting.
     
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    Well Trump is the grievance BLOTUS representing the grievance birthers.
     
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    Purely spasms of the DNC's rotting corpse. Face time with MSM, and donations from Soros is their reward.
     
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    And exactly what does this have to do with the coward Sessions also being a Russian puppet?
     
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    Are you reading from Comeys unpublished manuscript?
     
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    'Starting'? It was tedious the first time Comey said "I can't respond to that'! We'll both agree that NOTHING is unclassified at this point. All of us deserve the truth and only the truth.
     

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