Seven Year Old Girl Dies in Custody at the Border

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  1. FatBack

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    The Nazi card is so yesterday. Congrats, you win the Godwin's!
     
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    yup that's the test, I didn't know it until I watched the ER doc do it to my daughter, does that make me a bad parent? ...but when i become a grandparent I'll know what to look for
     
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    You're incorrect. It's not possible to go from normal hydration to fatal dehydration within 8 hours unless you're already very ill.
     
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    The people responsible are the child's parents. And I agree, they should be held accountable. Just like any US citizen would be when child neglect is involved.
     
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    mild? is that why the clinic called to tell the ER we were on our way? is that why another clinic who refused to even look at her was disciplined the regional medical association?....the death rate from my daughters type of dehydration is 65%...that was in 12 hrs, indoors...

    don't have the manpower ...oh please, you got thousands of medical personal....
     
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    Nope. If a child dies when it has been in custody for 8 hours.... than the people who took custody got much to answer for.
     
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    So true. All the American kids who die from what illegals bring in is not the least bit important to these libs.
     
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    Was she ILL? How did she dehydrate? Was she perfectly well and simply decided not to drink for 12 hours?

    This game of omission doesn't help your argument.
     
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    That's like saying that everyone who dies in hospital has been 'manslaughtered' by the hospital.
     
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    maybe not so much those who had her in custody but the entire system for not being prepared...they didn't need a MD a qualified EMT would've picked up on the child's symptoms...
     
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    not everyone has had medical training to recognize dehydration, heart attack and stroke are much easier to spot...I would've thought at a detention center there would be someone with basic emergency medical training on duty, dehydration among the migrants is a common ailment and has killed many...I posted earlier that I've seen videos of border security handing out water to migrants, so they do know from experience it's a constant danger..
     
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    When someone dies in custody, it is the responsibility of the people who were in charge of them to prove that they provided the appropriate level of care to those involved. I don't know at this point if BP did what they should have done in this instance or not, but any time a child dies in someone's custody, INCLUDING THE PARENTS, it is their responsibility to show they provided the care that was needed based on what they knew.

    PS You can absolutely die of heat stroke in 8 hours if left untreated.
     
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    The fact that she threw up after being put on the bus indicates she was given water and her system would not tolerate it. Unless there were several people exhibiting severe dehydration it is doubtful that one child in a group of over 150 would warrant much attention. She was probably given water at the time of apprehension. If she exhibited the ability to accept the water and acknowledge the officer further attention would not be warranted. Her father probably felt that water was all his daughter needed. When he realized differently, he notified the officers and they took every effort to save her. I would say they acted correctly.
     
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    compared to what this girl was dealing with? Yeah pretty mild.
     
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    No it's not. It's rather simple to find out if somebody is really dehydrated. And a hospital who doesn't find that out, and leaves the child be for hours till it's way too late, is responsible for that death.
     
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    You still got a child with fever and vomiting all over the place.
    Seems obvious that form the guy signed is a total joke.
    While the child was taken into custody for 8 hours... that makes them liable.
    It's not as if she was "free" to go and have a drink.
     
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    They could have stayed in Mexico and drank till they turned blue
     
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    No, the parents, or parent, is liable. The child was sick long before the federal ages took her to the hospital.

    If you take a sick child to the Mexican border do not expect them to look after her. That's your responsibility and trying to shuffle the blame onto others is irresponsible.
     
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    I dont owe trespassers a hospital.
    Why aren't you down there handing out water that you bought?
     
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    Seems they don't expect much from the people of Central America. That none of them should be held responsible for their actions.
     
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    You do when you take them into custody.
    They weren't in my custody.
     
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    But the US took them into custody
     

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