Sham trial, The People will be the jury!!!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ronstar, Jan 31, 2020.

  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Didn't ask them to do the investigation asked them to cooperate with it.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you are admitting that the Democrats could possibly lose seats in the Senate.

    I agree... Doug Jones, Jeanne Shaheen, Gary Peters, Tom Udall, Tina Smith, Jeff Merkley, Cory Booker and even Mark Warner are all vulnerable.

    Meanwhile I only see the Republicans possibly losing 2 seats that they currently hold. But I wouldn't bet on it.
     
  3. Pardon_Me

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    Hahaha! Nice. This kind of direct, snark-free question stumps the sheeple everytime.

    Just like when they scream and SHOUT that Trumps gonna lose in 2020 and one simply has to ask, "Who's going to beat him?" and the house of cards collapses. :confusion: :crazy:

    Fish in a barrel. :fishing:
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought we couldn't be trusted to vote?
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, the people will vote their conscience. But, you might not like which way they vote...

    Well, actually, the Electoral College will be the final vote. ;)
     
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    First, Trump did not ask Ukraine to investigate a political opponent. He asked Ukraine to look into the possible corruption of a former government official who publicly boasted on video about shaking down Ukraine. Germany would have zero interest in spending 10 seconds in investigating a hoped-for fairy tale.
     
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    *LOL*

    Biden, along with every western country, demanded the removal of Shokin. Why? Because he was corrupt and wasn't investigating Burisma, et al. I've told you this numerous times, so why do you persist in repeating bullshit?
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    So others wanted the prosecutor removed. So what? How many of the others pressed their wants by shaking down the government of Ukraine by threatening to withhold $1B, and then in a wild display of stupidity bragged about it on a video?
     
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    This was official US policy at the time, every western power had the same policy and Congress was provided notice of the withheld aid and the painfully obvious policy reasons for doing so.

    This is in sharp contrast with scofflaw Bonespurs' conduct. His behavior was contrary to US policy at the time, he tried to get Ukraine to provide him with a personal political favor, he hid what he was trying to do, did not tell Congress and had zero policy reasons for his behavior.

    Are you going to continue with this nonsense again?
     
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    https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ined-630m-over-russia-money-laundering-claims
    Sorry, it's not a fairy tale.

    But then again, Germany might start an investigation if it meant getting rid of Trump from the Presidency.

    And Trump did do this to a political opponent.
    When Biden got in the race, he beat Trump in every national poll by 10 pts or something like that.
    And imagine where we would be, if there was no Whistleblower.
    Every Rally Trump had he would point out that Biden was under investigation by Ukraine.
    And everyone in the hall would scream "lock him up", just like he did to Clinton.
    It would be very hard for Biden to survive that.
     
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    Total BS post. The Congress had the chance to call witnesses during their inquiry. They wanted to impeach the President in time to use it in the election process. Past Impeachment trials took years to gather evidence, and included a grand Jury. The whole thing started with a whistleblower that had ties to Joe Biden. Further, Joe Biden actually did what they accused the President of doing. Even the Democrats admitted that. Yet, they have not investigated Joe Biden. This proves that the DNC has two policies. One for Democrats, and one for republicans. So, it is Democrats that are cowards, and refused to call witnesses. They have yet to give a credible excuse for not calling witness during the inquiry.

    When you consider that the Democrats in Congress admitted that they knew that there was absolutely no chance to remove the President. Yet, they still went forward with the Impeachment. They also argued against calling witnesses, and a partisan Impeachment during the Clinton Impeachment. Then argued in favor of both calling witnesses, and a partisan, during President Trump's Impeachment. This shows that this Impeachment was nothing but a sham, and was designed to make the President and Republicans look bad. Of course, this will have the opposite effect. President Trump's approval rating is the highest during his Presidency, and is higher then Obama's at this point of his administration. The general public is not buying the DNC's false narrative. They are not buying the DNC childness tactics.
     
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    What Biden can not survive is the fact that he was given a free pass on his own Quid pro quo. Everyone remembers that Hillary Clinton got a free ride on espionage. No one is going to vote for another candidate that has been given a free ride.
     
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    And democrats fear the vote of the public!!!!
     
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    Can the next president of the united states who is a member of the democrat party be impeached on their very first day of office, by congress holding their character is unfit to hold the office, even before they have enacted a single policy?
     
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    You should be more careful what you wish for, because the people will indeed be the jury- and the losers will be a large number of the democrats involved in this phony partisan snipe-hunt.

    Truth is that between now and the results of the election, investigations already in action promise to expose a great deal of serious democrat misconduct- and the mood of the republicans as well as the people is shifting towards what might be called a scorched-earth approach, exposing and prosecuting everyone involved in these scams. No sympathy. Those not legally prosecutable would be subject to social prosecution; the loss of viability and acceptability as a candidate by having their roles exposed to public scrutiny. It's much like Strozok and Page. They aren't in jail- but as Nancy likes to imagine, they actually are stained forever. The difference is the stain is what they created and deserved, not what an obsessed political group tried to hang on them as a political curse.

    It's going to happen- and it is happening right now. With every defeat of each scheme, they contrive another even more outrageous, and every time, they add to the list of offenses that will destroy them. The American people can be sold a lot of garbage by unscrupulous politicians, but there is a limit. Trump has been allowing them to hang themselves... because he is one hell of a strategist, and they are so obsessed they can't even see it happening. Reminds you of a pool hustler playing with a rube so dumb that he keeps doubling down loss after loss, and hoping for a miracle.

    It's going to be brutal. Fully deserved, but brutal.
     
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