SHOCKINGLY AWFUL: US abducts protest / demonstration group as "sea pirates"

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  1. Marshal

    Marshal New Member Past Donor

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    The US demonstrators did a lot of bad things to interfere with the Japanese-owned whaling vessels off Australia's coast. Perhaps they deserve the ruling.

    What interests me is that if protestors can be labeled pirates and tried under unrelated law, then surely nobody is safe from the evil horrible, horrendous and despicable US horrific tyranny.

    US copyright law and predatory policing allows revised citation and summaries of copywritten work to be displayed when discussing or referencing that work. The following is a revised / summarized excerpt as allowed by tyrannical and predatory US law

    http://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2013/02/26/court--anti-whaling-protesters-are-pirates

    Court: Anti-whaling protesters are 'pirates'

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Their supporters call them heroes. The US Government calls them pirates.

    "You don't need a peg leg or an eye patch," Chief Judge Alex Kozinski wrote for the unanimous three-judge panel. "When you ram ships; launch smoke bombs; and point high-powered lasers at other ships, you are, without a doubt, a pirate, no matter how high-minded you believe your purpose to be."

    The same court in December ordered the organization to keep its ships at least 500 yards from Japanese whalers. The whalers have since accused the protesters of violating that order at least twice this month.

    The ruling overturned a Seattle trial judge's decision siding with the protesters and tossing out a lawsuit filed by a group of Japanese whalers seeking a court-ordered halt to the aggressive tactics, many of which were broadcast on the Animal Planet reality television show "Whale Wars."

    The judge also said the whalers were violating an Australian court order banning the hunt and so were precluded from pursuing their lawsuit in the United States.

    "The district judge's numerous, serious and obvious errors identified in our opinion raise doubts as to whether he will be perceived as impartial in presiding over this high-profile case," Kozinski wrote.

    "They are killing whales in violation of an Australian court order," Moure said.
     
  2. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They're raiding legitimate trade and industry on the high seas. They've used scare tactics and outright attacked Japanese vessels. Piracy is robbery on the high seas, so no, they're not Pirates. They're just attacking people. *rollseyes*

    This isn't shocking or tyrannical. Honestly, you're worse than state media.
     
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    Do you realize that your posts are a joke?
     
  4. lizarddust

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    You do realise the Japanese are whaling in Australian controlled territorial waters?
     
  5. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Accused of it. In a US court. You realize this, right?

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    Accused, as far as ive seen, by americans, not the Australian government. These are, of course, Americans who have deliberately sought to engage the Japanese on prior occassion.
     
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    Then it sounds like a job for the Australian Coast Guard or the equivalent thereof. It seems to me that either a few Japanese ships have proven the Aussie government to be impotent or the issue is being grossly exaggerated. Which is it?
     
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    Looks like once again American's have the balls that Austrailians lack.
     
  8. Marshal

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    You didn't read 2 words into the thread as usual. It's not me calling the protestors pirates, it's the US State Judge, and so your disagreement should be directed to the US State and the State Media you referred to is perhaps your own State calling them pirates.

    I am merely bringing you the news story.

    The part that is shockingly awful, is that the US laws which were created by the legislators to fight against PIRACY are being used against PROTESTORS. As such no person is safe from US tyranny even and especially if they claim the outrageous laws they are creating are only for something else.

    How can the politician set the course of American behaviour if the purpose and application of his law can be so perversely cross applied to a collateral target? THAT is what is shockingly awful.
     
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    Protesters are not immune from the law. If they "occupy" my house, they have committed a home invasion... and can be shot or tried. What don't you understand?
     
  10. Troianii

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    I said it's not piracy. If you expect me to send a letter of disagreement to a judge in regards to the part YOU saw fit to put in the title as US abducts protesters as "sea pirates", then you're more of a joke than I thought.

    And no US laws were used against the protestors. The judge said it's out of their jurisdiction.
     
  11. lizarddust

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    It's a bit of a balancing act. On one hand Japan is one of Australia's strongest trading partner on the other via a loop hole, Japan is breaking an international agreement.
     
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    The two Sea Shepherd ships involved are Australian flagged ships, the MY Bob Barker and the MY Steve Irwin, with Australian and international crews.

    By the way, the Japanese whaling fleet ordered Australian ships out of Australian waters.
     
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    Watched a documentary on Somali pirates a few weeks ago. This seems to be right up that ally of US tax dollars funding corporate communism in the form of security for private business!

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    WTF are we doing paying 7 billion dollars a year to police the waters of Somalia?

    If these Japanese whaling ships want these PETA freaks to leave them alone, then hire private security!
     
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    What do you mean "via a loophole, Japan is breaking an int'l agreement"? If they are operating via a "loophole" then they would be operating within whatever agreement you're talking about. Perhaps you could be more specific?

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    Really? Did Australian ships then leave Australian waters as instructed? I wouldn't be surprised. lol
     
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    You need to do a bit of reseach ;)

    An internationl whaling agreement was signed, including by the US that whaling be banned. Japan through a loophole, stating they are whaling for scientific research continues to hunt whales. The whale meat ends up on Japanese dinner tables.

    An Australian flagged ship was rammed by Japanese whalers. So no, they didn't leave the area.
     
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    Somalia is unrelated. As far as I knew, the Japanese previously sought (and won) restriction on 'these PETA freaks' through court, and this article was about their attempt to sue them, which was dismissed as out of the jurisdiction. This, of course, translates to Marshall as, "United States abducts protest group."
     
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    Do you know what happens to people who are convicted in a court of being a pirate?
     
  18. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It varies, like with anything, but I think the norm is 30years. And how is that relevant?
     
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    Actually, I was just giving you the benefit of the doubt. I've done my research. Were you aware that the agreement that you're referring to requires Japan to use all parts of the whale that they can?

    http://iwc.int/permits
    I don't suppose that little tidbit gets reported much in Australian rags, does it? ;)

    They would only be in violation of the agreement if whale meat DIDN'T end up on Japanese dinner tables.
     
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    If they have been deamed pirates by the US government, then if reported on the seas, the US navy will be required to police them. This is corporate communism!
     
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    Japan aims to slaughter over 900 minke whales this summer alone for scientific research. Thats a lot of titbits.
     
  22. tomfoo13ry

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    Relatively speaking, 900 is nothing. That isn't even enough for 1% of the Japanese population to even get a slight whiff of whale meat. Besides, minke whales aren't even close to being endangered so what's the problem? They're not even classified as "threatened". Are you a vegetarian?
     

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