Should a woman who has repeated abortions have her uterus privileges taken away?

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I didn't do that. I asked how she's doesn't know that all pregnancies are not planned. As she was suggesting all women should do. One should never get pregnant if one didn't plan on it.
    I would bet, 50% or more pregnancies are NOT planned.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    If one is certain they don't want children, they get fixed.

    It would be far more irresponsible to bring a child into the world and neglect said child(ren). IMO.
     
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    And that is exactly what crank said.

    I fully agree.
     
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    I don't think they ever suggested that only women should be responsible, but maybe I misread it.

    That sounds very high and is a very pessimistic and negative view of romance and sexual intercourse. I think it is way lower than that.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pregnancies are not supposed to be planned. You're supposed to get together with the one you love, and, if a baby happens to come into the world, there's a family there to welcome and take care of it.

    You completely throw the notion of committed relationships out the window, it's no wonder it's seen that abortion is needed as an everyday part of normal life.

    Relationships are supposed to be the thing that's planned.

    This idea that it is pregnancies which are the element to planned is probably what has led to droves of single women these days deciding to go down to a sperm bank and intentionally have a baby on their own timetable.
     
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    Not to me or anything I responded to. She flat out said, women should not have kids if they can't afford them. But pregnancies happen all the time. Many many pregnancies are NOT planned. Whether money is a factor or not.
    Having sex isn't about how much money one has. As sex intercourse is the way to a pregnancy.
     
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    Perhaps. I have no sound evidence for unplanned pregnancies. But they are a significant amount.

    The post I responded to, said, women should NOT have pregnancies if they can't afford them. NO other qualifiers. I simply state that it is BS to expect that. Anywhere in the world.
     
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    The 1950s ended.

    Hell isn't this the OP where it thinks a uterus is a privilege for women? LOL. Silly belief.
     
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    Well, it depends how you define "a significant amount" and "unplanned". I still would like to think most pregnancies are wanted (i.e. planned) or abortion rates would be way, way, way higher.

    That is entirely between the two of you. I should have stayed out of it. :)
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish there was a way where, if the woman started to have a baby she wasn't ready for, the baby could be put in some sort of suspended stasis, until that point that the woman was ready for and wanted the baby.

    I know that's pure fantasy.

    It just seems absurd to me that women are terminating their babies, not because they don't want a baby, but simply because that baby is coming at the wrong point of time in their lives.
     
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    Yes, it is fantasy...so is "uterus privileges", so is "women have an obligation to give birth...
     
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    And healthcare. I oppose healthcare as a 'right', but I support healthcare for all under 18.
     
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    How utterly idiotic. Most couples who decide to have children plan it and work really hard to fulfill their dreams of becoming parents. They are, very much, supposed to be planned.

    It isn't.

    Both relationship and parenthood ought to planned.

    That is the result of a culture that has completely lost its sense of life and value for romance. These days, the value of sex is so inflated it is not worth anything and love is laughed at and disregarded as and reduced to "chemical reactions". People should definitely rethink their value-judgements, I absolutely agree.
     
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    I'm pro-choice and anti-abortion. Yes, it's possible to be both!

    We can only change our own behaviour. And unfortunately the only way some will ever change is if they're allowed to feel the consequences of their terrible choices.

    'Morally superior' societies aren't created by morally superior individuals, they're a result of not having Govts which protect irresponsible people from themselves. The end result of that is a created morally superior people, who understand that their poor choices have grave impacts on those around them.
     
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    When have I claimed to be an 'elderly' person? Never, that's when.

    As for naivety .. that's all yours. It appears you don't know how babies are made. If you did, you'd know they're the easiest thing in the world to avoid.
     
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    What the ****?

    CLEARLY, if you can't afford to raise a child, you should not be creating a child. Please show how that's untrue. Spell out exactly how "I can't afford to pay off this mortgage, so I probably shouldn't take it" is unsound.

    PS: I'm hoping you've figured out how babies are made, but if you're still unsure there are plenty of resources online.
     
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    :) How many are in those "droves" ????


    You claimed it...own it.
     
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    I know it is because I am not Pro Choice, but I am Pro Abortion. I actually self-identify as "Pro Life" because I believe my position is the one that actually values life.

    As long as sleeping around is praised, nothing will ever change.

    Morally superior individuals create morally superior lives.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would argue if such were the case she had an obligation to avoid this situation from arising in the first place.

    If I can use an analogy, it's like a bank robber entering a bank, and then when the security guard raises his gun, the robber says he has to shoot him in self defense.

    Yes, the robber does have to do so. But the robber CREATED that situation in the first place. So he's still responsible.
     
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    you need me to educate you, a female, on how babies are made? LOL.
    Ask your mom.
     
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    I'm not sure why you bother engaging, DA. Almost all of your arguments devolve into schoolyard bluster as soon as you encounter logic and reason.
     
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    I don't know why you do either. I mostly try to ignore your posts.
    You made a post about how women should not get pregnant if they can't afford kids. As if they planned to get pregnant.
     
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    Hey , since the OP CAN'T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS OP....maybe YOU can explain what "uterus privilege " is...:roflol::roflol:


    I mean contribute something other than "you don't know where babies come from, you don't know where babies come from,. you don't know where babies come from""
     
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    She doesn't.






    Is "uterus privilege" related to "Uterine Envy" ?
     
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    Sure, you could argue for that, but you cannot stop people from having sex.

    And in that analogy the robber is the fetus and the security guard is the woman whereas the bank is her womb - She has the full right to protect her property. ;)

    Just shoot him.
     

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